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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58451: Jun 6th 2020 at 7:45:25 PM

I personally think the complaints about Royal Okumura are overblown. Yes I lost to him a few times, but that just encouraged me to strategize better and I won on try three.

Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#58452: Jun 6th 2020 at 8:09:58 PM

I didn't mind vanilla Okumura palace or boss fight. I remember the hunger status that came out of nowhere but aside from that I remember nothing. Which means I didn't find it frustrating. I hope the royal version will be a bit more fun. I'm not going to spoil myself on it.

I don't like the arc though because of story reasons.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#58453: Jun 6th 2020 at 9:27:46 PM

even playing on merciless i only lost one time, and that was due to me making a mistake more than anything else. i feel like as long as you have weakness coverage and even partially remember the weaknesses of the bots from earlier you should be perfectly fine.

shadow sae's the only one that i lost to more than once, and that was due to her fight on merciless basically having an unavoidable party wipe.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#58454: Jun 7th 2020 at 2:23:39 PM

I got P 5 R for my birthday and have so far played 2 hours of it.

I really hope Sojiro and Morgana stop being assholes at some point.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#58455: Jun 7th 2020 at 2:27:27 PM

Sojiro, yes. Morgana, eh... he's better in this game than vanilla, but that's not saying much.

The legend has returned.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58456: Jun 7th 2020 at 2:50:41 PM

Morgana never came across as an asshole to me. Just kind of proud.

You'll learn to love Sojiro. Trust me.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#58457: Jun 7th 2020 at 2:53:58 PM

He keeps insulting Ryuji for not immediately grasping magical phenomena that he first experienced earlier that day.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58458: Jun 7th 2020 at 2:54:19 PM

Muat say I really love how he gets used in the permanent collab event in Another Eden.

Despite insisting with every finer of his being he ain't a Cat, he enters a world ONLY cats can enter, and that's how he rescues all the Phantom Thieves and Another Eden's Protagonists

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#58459: Jun 7th 2020 at 4:07:57 PM

Sojiro is cold to you in the beginning but he warms up to you a lot if you do his social link and as you progress through the story.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#58460: Jun 7th 2020 at 6:28:32 PM

A word of warning, since I've seen it catch people out: Sojiro's Confindant will NOT progress past rank 3 until you complete the fourth Palace. Until then, hanging out with him is a complete and utter waste of time.

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#58461: Jun 7th 2020 at 8:36:37 PM

Is Royal worth owning if you have the original? (I do, and I've finished it a few times.)

Please tell me they fixed the whole hanging out with Sojiro gives you kindness even though you're supposed to have maxed kindness out after a certain point thing.

Edited by Smasher on Jun 7th 2020 at 11:38:04 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#58462: Jun 7th 2020 at 8:43:54 PM

Depends on how interested you are in the new stuff; if you already played the original, then keep in mind the game is 80% the same until you get to the third semester.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#58463: Jun 8th 2020 at 12:44:56 AM

Royal is absolutely worth getting even if you have the original. There's way more than ~$60 more of additional content in Royal.

While the vast majority of the game is the same leading up to the extra semester, there's still enough that will throw you for a loop and make it feel like a new experience, especially if you haven't played the original in a while.

On top of that, the additional content is legitimately some of the best writing in the whole franchise- praise I've even heard from a diehard Persona 2 fan, and you know how Persona 2 fans view Persona games that are numbered 3 or higher.

tl;dr: yes it's absolutely worth getting Royal

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#58464: Jun 8th 2020 at 6:44:06 AM

If you like p5 enough to play it several times royal is probably worth buying. It's more of what made p5 good and with less of the criticisms people have levelled at it.

Pretty sure they haven't changed what you mentionned but I have a hard time seeing what's so bad about it. Like yeah it becomes pointless later in the game but that's still harmless at worst.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58466: Jun 8th 2020 at 8:53:08 AM

Yeah I did not like having to be forced to fuse when I only had Arsene & one other Persona.

Traumatized me a bit there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#58467: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:14:09 AM

My headcanon is that after Arsene came back, he absolutely forced Joker to use him in Smash Bros as revenge.

The legend has returned.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58468: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:19:16 AM

Arsène is kinda garbage anyway and it hammers in that you should fuse and collect Personas as much as possible to experiment.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#58469: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:20:42 AM

Its Possible via the Gallows system to make a Buff AF Arsene.

Or any Persona really. Its much easier than in the older games or even the various SMT games.

Its why the twins in the game have buff as fuck basic persona's in their bonus boss fight.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Jun 8th 2020 at 12:20:55 PM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58470: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:25:11 AM

I mean you totally could buff him to be awesome, but it's a massive investment of time and resources. You'll need to keep him in Lockdown for long periods of time, stuff him full of guillotine buffs, and use a bunch of the best Skill Cards. (I barely used Skill Cards though so that part probably isn't a big deal outside of Electric Chair stuff.)

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58471: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:33:39 AM

[up][up][up] Yeah but he’s so cool looking.

It’s why I always stuck with Izanagi in P4.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58472: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:37:10 AM

At least with the re-releases, the starting Persona can get skill cards to negate their weaknesses without needing a chain of fusions that generally tend to invite accidents that fuck you over.

Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#58473: Jun 8th 2020 at 9:43:33 AM

Meh, maybe it's because I played a lot of various Atlus games but I'm more attached to the other personas than the starter ones. I mean I had so many fond memories running around with Mithra, Odin and the others that I rather see them again than keep Arsene or Izanagi around.

Man, I was so sad I couldn't have Hecate. Liked her a lot in Devil Survivors.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#58474: Jun 8th 2020 at 11:27:23 AM

I do think it would be a good idea for persona protagonists to have their "main" persona be permanently in their roster and not able to do fusions and stuff with them. Seems like a best-of-both-worlds sort of thing — you get the story benefit of their main persona being available for cutscenes and stuff if they ever need to do something awesome, and all the character potential of persona evolving into ultimate forms and whatnot, plus all the gameplay flexibility of the normal wild card system.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58475: Jun 8th 2020 at 11:39:02 AM

I don't know about that... on one hand, those starter Personas would need to learn more than a few skills by leveling up to remain viable even late into the game and another issue is that if skill cards and whatnot cannot be used to remove their weaknesses, then it would just be a Scrappy Mechanic due to taking up valuable space in the roster that could have been used for something else.


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