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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58326: May 21st 2020 at 7:19:21 PM

I'm turning down the difficulty to refight the boss. I got to the end with no problem and only lost because the game cheated me, so I'm cheating it back.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#58327: May 21st 2020 at 7:27:44 PM

I thought that was just SMT in general

Lead character bites it, time to start over

Some of the later games did away with that. Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse didn't have that mechanic, and neither did Strange Journey Redux.

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58328: May 21st 2020 at 7:33:41 PM

Shin Megami Tensei IV also ditched that, but interestingly enough, Apocalypse does bring it back for its hardest difficulty as does Strange Journey Redux.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#58329: May 21st 2020 at 8:08:42 PM

P4 turned out to be a game Izanami set up, and I think 5 too. So, the protagonist falls=the wrong team wins.

Wake me up at your own risk.
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#58330: May 21st 2020 at 8:29:55 PM

So was Persona 2 Innocent Sin, and you didn't auto lose if Tatsuya fell.

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#58331: May 21st 2020 at 9:21:12 PM

The problem is that there's generally no reason why revival items/magic shouldn't work at that point. Like yeah if the protagonist actually dies then the game becomes unwinnable, but we're not talking about a plotline death here. We're talking about hitting zero HP in battle. Shove a revival bead down his throat and get him back to work.

At least P5 lets you get abilities for other characters to take would-be lethal hits for you, which takes most of the sting out of We Cannot Go On Without You

Edited by NativeJovian on May 21st 2020 at 12:24:21 PM

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58333: May 22nd 2020 at 4:58:11 PM

I don't mind We Cannot Go On Without You in Persona because it's a great tool for difficulty relative to how powerful the main character can get in these games.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58334: May 22nd 2020 at 5:49:19 PM

Considering Persona 5 Scramble has its first full fledged older adult Persona user since the days of 2, do you think that Atlus is testing the waters for that to be a thing for P6?

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#58335: May 22nd 2020 at 5:51:17 PM

I'd love for that to be a thing.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58336: May 22nd 2020 at 5:53:47 PM

It certainly add more fun variety to the group dynamic.

Edited by slimcoder on May 22nd 2020 at 5:53:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58337: May 22nd 2020 at 5:57:44 PM

We could see it happen.

Though technically, we had Adachi in Ultimax years before Zenkichi.

One Strip! One Strip!
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#58338: May 22nd 2020 at 6:02:49 PM

I can see maybe one party member, but what they'll do in a spinoff is not necessarily indicative of what they'll do in mainline installments.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58339: May 22nd 2020 at 6:33:41 PM

It helps that Wolf is really well regarded amongst the Japanese fans, so I can see Atlus take note of it.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58340: May 22nd 2020 at 6:36:25 PM

Huh so he’s well-received, that’s good.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#58341: May 22nd 2020 at 6:40:35 PM

I'd be thrilled if Persona spinoffs in the future allowed for deviation from the formula.

Still waiting on that Shadow Operatives game.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58342: May 22nd 2020 at 6:49:17 PM

[up][up] Helps that despite seeming like the Inspector Zenigata to Joker's Lupin, he's much deeper then that.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#58343: May 22nd 2020 at 7:55:53 PM

How was the overall reception to all the new characters in Royal/ Scramble/Q2?

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58344: May 22nd 2020 at 9:51:32 PM

Beat the game. Is rly good.

I didn't meet the requirements for the third semester, so I'll have to do that in NG+.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58345: May 23rd 2020 at 12:08:58 AM

I've never heard of someone taking an hour to beat Yaldabaoth. What level where you?

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#58346: May 23rd 2020 at 12:50:36 AM

[up][up][up]Dunno about the rest, but the royale additions have been veyr well received so far. Takuto especially, gets regularly praised as the best antagonist of modern persona. Kasumi less so but still overall good.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58347: May 23rd 2020 at 12:58:55 AM

An hour was probably a heavy exaggeration on my part, but it still felt like a long time.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#58348: May 23rd 2020 at 12:59:56 AM

I remember the Yaldy fight taking me quite a long time too, but probably not an hour. I wasn't counting.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58349: May 23rd 2020 at 5:31:22 AM

Took me about 30 minutes not counting the final Sinful Shell Scripted sequence.

Still nowhere near the potentially 2-3 hours that the Nyx Avatar from 3 has, and probably not even as long as Izanami from 4.

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Cosplaythief Since: Jun, 2013
#58350: May 24th 2020 at 12:52:30 PM

So I'm actually playing Royal and I'm at the Madarame arc and I have a huge question.

How did the game justify meeting Nakanohara in person? He straight up met us and asked to change someone's heart. He knows we are at least affiliated with the Phantom Thieves website. That's extremely careless of the gang. Are we even trying to not look like we're the phantom thieves?

It's something that bugged me even with the vanilla version.


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