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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#58101: May 17th 2020 at 3:41:31 PM

I approve of the TED Talk that Yosuke is the worst.

The third option for every dialogue choice in P4 should have been "hit Yosuke with a bat."

Edited by RodimusMinor on May 17th 2020 at 6:45:37 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58102: May 17th 2020 at 3:42:40 PM

How was Junpei?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58103: May 17th 2020 at 3:42:42 PM

Which is a pity because every single time Teddie opens his mouth, I have to remind myself that there is no option to throw him to the Wolves.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58104: May 17th 2020 at 3:44:14 PM

Honestly Teddie was always worse, and not only was no one else willing to take him in, but it was Shadow Yukiko that made him such a repulsive thing.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#58105: May 17th 2020 at 3:44:29 PM

Junpei is good once he gets over his inferiority complex.

He's really good in P3P where his SL is just him being a really good friend and very wholesome guy.

He's really really good in The Answer, where his position of 'Everyone needs to stop acting dumb' is the easiest one to agree with.

Edited by asterism on May 17th 2020 at 10:45:48 AM

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#58106: May 17th 2020 at 3:48:05 PM

When Junpei is the voice of reason, you know it’s an idiot plot.

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#58107: May 17th 2020 at 3:56:24 PM

Junpei sucks but that's because he's a shitty teenager when the story starts and then he grows up and becomes a better person.

It's really hard to do that character correctly, which made it all the weirder that he was followed up by Yosuke who embodied all the shitty parts with none of the humanity.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58108: May 17th 2020 at 4:01:05 PM

That's being disingenuous, but i can say that applies to all IT members because they decided character development can be ignored and put in SL only, and any spinoffs especially if they take place after the game must never have any of them undergo developement. Which makes Teddie all the worse because they tie his SL to rhe main story, and he's still fundamentally garbage poo when any spinoff is involved.

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#58109: May 17th 2020 at 4:07:24 PM

Yosuke doesn't have the disconnect from reality of being a horny cartoon bear. He's just the dumb shithead you went to high school with who says homophobic shit and acts like a creep to girls.

Only you have to like him, all the time, without fail.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58110: May 17th 2020 at 4:13:31 PM

And Chie and Yukiko are psychopaths who attempt to murder people with bad food who refuse to learn how to cook, attack every man in a vicinity, steal from others and always use violence as their first solution, like to play the victim when some guys haven't done anything wrong, and having a hyena laugh should make them funny.

Teddie exists.

Like we can just play the every initial member of the group in P4 are terrible in their own ways and only the latter three avoid it. And its precisely because they are anime archetypes. Who don't learn anything and remain the same in the spinoffs.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on May 17th 2020 at 4:18:25 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#58111: May 17th 2020 at 4:17:59 PM

Honestly, the only crime Yukiko's responsible for in terms of writing is that she's bland as hell.

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#58112: May 17th 2020 at 4:18:41 PM

Yukiko's the second best P4 girl after Rise though.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58113: May 17th 2020 at 4:19:47 PM

Im sorry but it goes Naoto > Izanami > Rise > No one because the rest are meh.

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#58114: May 17th 2020 at 4:21:00 PM

How do I put this.

Chie and Yukiko are garbage, but they're pulp anime garbage. They're punchlines that exist for otaku. They aren't real.

Yosuke is painfully real in such a way that it's a mini tragedy he's not the best character in all of Persona. It's to the point where he's arguably the deepest character in all of modern Persona but all of it is wasted. He's not fun to be around, he says awful prejudiced shit to Kanji, but you have to sit next to him anyway.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58115: May 17th 2020 at 4:23:18 PM

Yosuke is a mouthpiece for the protagonist in the game so.......

And anime garbage has every right to be even more disgusted by. Because anime garbage can be some of the most realistic shit in how terrible it is. Like how every cartoon villain in P5 is shown to be painfully realistic with real life terrible human beings like corporate overlords.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on May 17th 2020 at 4:27:33 AM

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#58116: May 17th 2020 at 4:24:29 PM

Best girls from each game for me

P1 and P2/2: Maya and SMT IF protag

P3: Yukari=Aigis=Elizabeth > Fuuka > Mitsuru > Metis

P4: Margaret > Naoto=Rise > Yukiko=Chie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marie

P5: Ann=Kasumi=Haru > Futaba=Lavenza > Caroline=Justine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Makoto

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#58117: May 17th 2020 at 4:26:56 PM

But you hate the P5 villains because the things they do accurately reflect actual circumstances real people face.

You're never going to be in a situation where you walk in on a Sexy High School Girl Group Path and they all get mad and throw washtubs at you. You're never going to be fed poison cooking or get kicked in the nads for not returning a DVD. You're never going to have your money stolen because a magic bear is now your roommate and he needs clothes.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58118: May 17th 2020 at 4:27:39 PM

Uh those last two have happened to me.

And it was a DVD being broken by mistake.

Edit: Sorry the middle two. Not the bear one. Well okay actually having my money stolen to buy clothes also happened, but not the magical bear part.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on May 17th 2020 at 4:29:55 AM

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58119: May 17th 2020 at 4:28:33 PM

Monokuma is better then Teddie. At least he's Funny. wink

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deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#58120: May 17th 2020 at 4:29:49 PM

What part of the audience likes characters such as Teddie? They always pop up, but they never seem to be popular.

[down] Gotcha.

Edited by deludedmusings on May 17th 2020 at 9:34:18 PM

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#58121: May 17th 2020 at 4:30:29 PM

Merch.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58122: May 17th 2020 at 4:32:09 PM

I don't mind Teddie, but I can get why people don't like him.

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#58123: May 17th 2020 at 4:32:51 PM

The P4 cast are a bunch of dumb teenagers. Now, that doesn't make them likable (Depending on who you are anyways.) but just because they're not likable people doesn't mean they're badly written characters/deserve to be hated.

What part of the audience likes characters such as Teddie?
Personally, I like Teddie in the original game. It's later installments where he's flanderized that I dislike him in.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#58124: May 17th 2020 at 4:35:40 PM

Ryuji and Ann are pretty much the perfected version of the dynamic started by Junpei and Yukari.

Junpei/Yosuske and Yukari/Chie were just too toxic, they spent all of their interactions bickering. Its supposed to come off Vitriolic Best Buds likely, but the writers forgot about the "best buds" part. You got the impression they didn't like each other and only tolerated each other out of necessity.

Ryuji and Ann do bicker, but it's a lot less mean spirited and there's genuine moments of camaraderie between them to balance it out. I don't blame people at all for shipping them because their interactions are genuinely sweet and heartwarming.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#58125: May 17th 2020 at 4:39:03 PM

Honestly when the mangas write the characters better It kinda makes me laugh. Yosuke actually got written better in the First Arena Manga and The Magician which actually had him interact with Kou and Daisuke, as Daisuke ingame mentioned he did hang out from time to time even if they weren't close Golden even had him vote for Yosuke when they were forced to crossdress.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on May 17th 2020 at 4:39:37 AM

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