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Cross (Don’t ask)
#58051: May 17th 2020 at 10:29:25 AM

Are Ann and Haru left out for a reason?

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#58052: May 17th 2020 at 10:30:46 AM

[up][up]That's a great way to put it.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#58053: May 17th 2020 at 10:42:23 AM

Like i said, sure Sojiro may view Joker as a son but not his son if that makes sense.

Besides, the main point is that even if Sojiro views Joker as his son, he has no problem with Joker dating Futaba, nor does it really influence how Joker and Futaba see each other.

I never understand the "little sister" thing, like i have siblings and they are annoying as hell.

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 17th 2020 at 10:44:27 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#58055: May 17th 2020 at 10:46:06 AM

Do yourself a favor and do everything not to understand it.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#58056: May 17th 2020 at 10:46:13 AM

[up][up] I don't see Futaba erasing my game saves and stealing my wallet. And waking me up just to spoil movies for me.

[up] On that we can agree.

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 17th 2020 at 10:50:20 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cross (Don’t ask)
#58057: May 17th 2020 at 10:47:51 AM

She no problem invading someone's privacy and she has her bratty moments.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#58058: May 17th 2020 at 10:49:13 AM

[up] Honestly, her bratty moments aren't that bad IMO.

I mean, i deal with siblings who keep stealing my food when we eat out and throw tantrums, so perhaps my bullshit tolerance is high.

As for privacy invasions. Touche. Though her stealing Akechi's phone was great.

Edited by RedHunter543 on May 17th 2020 at 10:52:57 AM

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Cross (Don’t ask)
#58059: May 17th 2020 at 10:53:00 AM

Trust me I know Futaba isn't that bad from personal experience, but I can also understand why people see her certain ways that on all fronts.sad

Edited by Cross on May 17th 2020 at 1:54:49 PM

ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#58060: May 17th 2020 at 11:27:37 AM

I always shipped Ann with Joker and kinda ship Makoto with Ryuji... don't ask.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#58061: May 17th 2020 at 11:32:11 AM

Royal gives a lot more material for Makoto and Ryuji to work with, shipping wise.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58062: May 17th 2020 at 11:38:29 AM

I could picture Ryuji having a think for Makoto from her initial Awakening. He seems like he was pretty awed by it (then again, everybody was pretty awed by her awakening).

One Strip! One Strip!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#58063: May 17th 2020 at 11:45:51 AM

The only thieves I ship together are Joker/Haru and Ann/Ryuji.

The legend has returned.
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58064: May 17th 2020 at 11:47:17 AM

I myself ship Joker/Makoto and, dare I say it, Yusuke/Futaba.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58065: May 17th 2020 at 12:11:50 PM

Do people that ship Yosuke x Chie and Ryui x Ann just like trite Belligerent Sexual Tension?

Edited by VeryMelon on May 17th 2020 at 12:13:25 PM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#58066: May 17th 2020 at 12:17:30 PM

The difference between Yosuke/Chie and Ryuji/Ann in my mind is that Ann/Ryuji is much more playful about the sexual tension. Chie just treats Yosuke like shit.

The legend has returned.
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58067: May 17th 2020 at 12:20:33 PM

It also doesn't help that Yosuke is prone to saying something insensitive about Chie when she is nearby and is kind of a perv.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on May 17th 2020 at 12:21:49 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58068: May 17th 2020 at 12:25:59 PM

She kinda treats him like shit even when he's not being an ass though. Like, the jackassery is there to justify the fact that Chie would probably be a shitty friend to Yosuke even if he was the nicest dude in the entire persona franchise.

One Strip! One Strip!
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#58069: May 17th 2020 at 12:46:11 PM

Are Ann and Haru left out for a reason?
Both of them, as of first joining the party, are coming out of a period of long-term abusive relationships. Ann was sexually harassed at minimum, possibly raped, and has issues regarding her own attractiveness and sexuality. Haru was emotionally abused by her father (which she never came to terms with before his death made her issues with him even more complicated), and has hangups with romantic relationships due to the arranged marriage set up by her father.

Neither of these are as bad as Futaba, but I really dislike the "I will fix them with love" thing (is there an actual trope for that?). Like yeah, having close, supportive relationships is never a bad thing, but maaaaaybe jumping directly into a romantic relationship before you get a handle on all the sex/love/romance shit you've been dealing with isn't the best idea. The "you were hurt by Bad Man, you will be healed by Good Man" dynamic really rubs me the wrong way.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#58070: May 17th 2020 at 12:47:23 PM

I'm not sure if I like them romanticaly, but I like the relationship between Yusuke and Futaba. I also bro-ship Yusuke with Ann, I just feel like they could have nice talks about aesthetics and stuff. I think that Ann is the type to appreciate art, while Yusuke might be interested in models (both for how they carry themselves and how their clothes look).

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#58071: May 17th 2020 at 12:49:53 PM

Ann was able to discern Yusuke's emotional state through his painting at Madarame's exhibit. She's totally got an eye for art.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#58072: May 17th 2020 at 1:14:33 PM

while Ryuji and Ann had known each other since middle school.
Depending on who is writing the scene. P5's inconsistent writing makes them sound like barely acquaintances before the Thieves in the main plot on then BF Fs for years during the workout scenes.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#58073: May 17th 2020 at 1:35:02 PM

Do people that ship Yosuke x Chie and Ryui x Ann just like trite Belligerent Sexual Tension?

Yosuke is a fuckboy and Chie is a lunatic. Ryuji and Ann actually act like friends and playfully rib each other.

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#58074: May 17th 2020 at 1:38:13 PM

[up][up] Honestly I interpreted it more as them having been old friends who grew distant but have reconnected thanks to being in the Phantom Thieves. Didn't seem too inconsistent to me.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58075: May 17th 2020 at 1:40:46 PM

[up][up][up] I mean it’s not really that inconsistent.

Some people could be really friends as children but as they grow up they grow apart & just become acquaintances.

I know several people who I hung out a lot with as children that slowly fell off as I got older like Ann & Ryuji did.

Edited by slimcoder on May 17th 2020 at 1:41:13 AM

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