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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#57926: May 6th 2020 at 8:48:42 PM

I just made my first lock pick. Any suggestions on what stats I should work on?

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#57927: May 7th 2020 at 9:42:51 PM

I've stolen Kamoshida's heart. I didn't enter the safe room on the final floor before the heist, so I had to get up their from the middle safe room. I've also leveled up my Proficiency to 2.

This game is great. I think it's giving me a headache somehow, though. That or I've been playing too long.

ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#57928: May 7th 2020 at 9:49:46 PM

You should up your Charm. That's the stat I always try to max out first in Persona games.

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#57929: May 8th 2020 at 2:30:49 AM

Every Sunday you can buy a juice in the underground Shibuya station to raise a stat without spending time.

Once you unlock the potted plant, you can occasionally give it plant food to raise Kindness, also without spending time. The best plant food is sold in Shinjuku, but before you can go there, use the plant food from the flower shop in the underground mall.

I'm not sure if it's changed in Royal, but get Devil Confidant to level 5 ASAP. You can then buy SP-recovery accessories from her.

Tenperance and Fortune are also top tier as far Confidant effects go, so you should prioritize them.

Temperance is all about extra time. It gives you additional timeslots where you can do limited actions, but this includes raising stats. It also allows you to do certain actions like washing the laundry without spending time.

Fortune offers a plethora of useful effects, like getting extra stats during activities, getting more money from battles, and most importantly, getting closer with Confidants without spending time with them.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57930: May 8th 2020 at 2:58:37 AM

[up] Don't you mean the Death Confidant? I'm certain that you can't actually start Devil until after you can go to Shinjuku and that the doctor has the Death Confidant.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on May 8th 2020 at 2:59:19 AM

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#57931: May 8th 2020 at 3:30:21 AM

yeah, you're mixing it up with the death confident. But yes, the doc's SP recovery items are a gift to man.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#57932: May 8th 2020 at 3:53:34 AM

SP recovery items are good, but if you're playing Royal you'll want to alternate them with the Will Stone accessories, which are also really good

Bewitching Eyes
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#57933: May 8th 2020 at 7:21:24 AM

Is the Devil confidant still pretty useless in terms of skills?

The legend has returned.
Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#57934: May 8th 2020 at 7:26:27 AM

it's still one of the weaker confidents but they did some number tweaking that makes the surveillance rating something you might occasionally watch out for without it, and they reworked all of the abilities to provide active bonuses during the palace infiltration instead of simply raising the decay rate between days.

For examples, Ruler awareness starts out at 40% so getting spotted even once makes already something of a difference instead of starting out at 0. Killing ennemies though ambushes doesn't reduce it nearly as much as it used to, and killing enemies without being spotted but without ambushes doesn't, if I remember right.

Her confident allows you to lower the rating by finding out new safe rooms, decreases the raise when you're spotted and raises back how much you reduce it by ambushing enemies, and decreases the initial rating when you start. her final makes it outright easier to ambush enemies too, although i'm not sure exactly how it works.

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#57935: May 8th 2020 at 8:54:07 AM

It's been made more useful, but so have the other more situational confidants, so she's still the worst.

Bewitching Eyes
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#57936: May 9th 2020 at 4:24:42 AM

Indeed. Ryuji's instant kill mechanic was reworked altogether so that you have to go out of your way to make it trigger and you also get all of the battle spoils when it kicks in.

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#57937: May 9th 2020 at 9:11:02 AM

[up]x many Yeah, I meant Death, not Devil, sorry.

Kagamikazuto Kazuto from NC Since: Feb, 2020 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Kazuto
#57938: May 9th 2020 at 3:03:26 PM

Knowing I'm behind on confidants but too scared to catch up on them so I don't fall behind on them too.

Can't think of one.
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#57939: May 9th 2020 at 3:52:10 PM

Well, I'm finally gonna play SMT: If? and Persona 1. Wish me luck.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#57940: May 9th 2020 at 3:54:45 PM

[up] I tried SMT IF. Man, is it so Persona ish.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#57941: May 9th 2020 at 3:55:55 PM

It also apparently has a canon female protagonist, so that's nice. I'm still mad Atlus ignores Persona 2.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#57942: May 9th 2020 at 3:57:48 PM

[up] Yeah i made a build with a female protag. She even appears in Persona 1 as an NPC.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#57943: May 9th 2020 at 4:03:09 PM

Well, that's awesome.

My current ranking of the franchise is Persona 3>Persona 2=Persona 5>Persona 4

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#57944: May 9th 2020 at 6:18:56 PM

PSP Persona 1 is great. Not for the piss easy and annoying gameplay, but the story presentation is good. All the NPC town characters and your own party get so much dialogue for character bits. The way 1 and 2 present their party members as being able to be talked with when you're in a room together is honestly a simple but clever design decision.

If the modern Personas did that in dungeons, it would clear up a whole lot of ambiguity as to what they have to say in the current situation.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#57945: May 9th 2020 at 6:23:26 PM

Persona 1 is a good time until the final dungeon, which is grind city.

However the real sticking point against it is that there's zero reason to actually play it when the manga exists.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#57946: May 9th 2020 at 6:46:01 PM

Eh, manga makes some changes, and if you want certain party members to play out, the manga has to choose favorites. Persona 1 is like the midpoint between modern and classic RPG design. It's a more character-based narrative and has the darker, more urban tone, but it's got exclusive party members and a lot of replay value with Snow Queen. If there were a patch that reinstated the classic music in new parts of scenes and let the new arrangements still play and cut the encounter rate by a third, it'd be one of the best Personas, bar none. It's still my favorite localization of a Persona game, they put a lot of love into making the script read well.

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#57947: May 9th 2020 at 6:55:55 PM

For me at least the only reason to play P1 over reading it is the slapping PSX soundtrack.

The characters have arcs, the MC is better integrated into the story, Maki is even deeper a character in a story that was already hers, and there's no Ayase.

P1 is honestly a lot of fun to play most of the time, it just has a steep learning curve and practically requires a guide.

Edited by RodimusMinor on May 9th 2020 at 9:57:41 AM

Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#57948: May 10th 2020 at 3:12:21 AM

While P1 manga is good, I feel like I would have been lost at times if I didn't know the story already.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#57949: May 10th 2020 at 6:16:24 AM

Also, the Snow Queen is one shot killed in the P1 manga, which is dumb.

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#57950: May 10th 2020 at 1:23:15 PM

Yeah, the manga has some good ideas, but it compresses a lot of stuff it didn't need to. It's hardly perfect. Also lack of Ayase is a crime, she's fun.


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