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CountofBleck Starting to believe in himself from New Wirral (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Starting to believe in himself
#57776: Apr 6th 2020 at 9:55:48 PM

The entire main cast is high schoolers. The MC is like what, 15?

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57778: Apr 6th 2020 at 10:01:33 PM

"God, the relationships in 5 are just awful sometimes. You know what's fun, kids? Having sex with your teacher! Or, if that's not for you, how about your doctor instead? But only if they're women, because being gay would be inappropriate."

They've been teasing a relationship with an older woman since P3. And I always found Tanaka's comments on the P3 Protagonist to be...awkward.

I had a long argument with somebody on Reddit who flat out refused to believe Yu can fuck Sayoko (the Devil Arcana nurse in P4) if you choose to return her flirting. Even though it does the usual fade to black, it's so clearly what happened based on her dialogue.

So the stuff with older women has always been there. They just finally stopped beating around teh bush.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#57779: Apr 6th 2020 at 10:02:41 PM

Because that would mean Ken and Fe MC fading to black meant that happens as well.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Apr 6th 2020 at 10:02:55 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57780: Apr 6th 2020 at 10:47:19 PM

Futaba is 15-16 btw, a year younger than Joker.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#57781: Apr 6th 2020 at 10:49:44 PM

My bad, I thought she was still in middle school

Bewitching Eyes
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#57782: Apr 6th 2020 at 10:54:05 PM

Makoto is the best girl, and it's good that Joker and her are in the same age group.

Maybe i'm in the minority, but i prefer to keep the romance between party members, aside from like the Shogo girl, all the romance options are too old for Joker.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
unfortunatezorua from the old, in the new yesterday (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#57783: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:05:07 PM

That, and the fact that one of said options too old for Joker is also his fucking teacher. How they came up with the dating options honestly escapes me.

Well, that’d be jus’ a waste. Why would ya want to deprive the world of such anomaly as yourself?
Kagamikazuto Kazuto from NC Since: Feb, 2020 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Kazuto
#57784: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:06:25 PM

It's not their interpretations that bother me. It's the condescending yikes stuff that makes me roll my eyes.

Can't think of one.
deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#57785: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:06:55 PM

The teacher bothered me, the other ones didn't. I understand why it would for people though.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#57786: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:09:39 PM

For what it's worth, at least the teacher relationship is pretty healthy all things considered.

It's still hypocritical after Kamoshida.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57787: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:09:52 PM

@Asterism: That's an easy mistake given she acts way younger than she actually is.

Ya know, as much as I love Makoto, I can't help but feel the game just kind of railroads you to her a bit.

Don't wanna date an older woman? Then you're down to five contestants: If you Don't wanna date your surrogate sister, Futaba is out. You're likely not gonna have max proficiency to do Haru (Seriously who thought this was a good idea, three years later and I'm still mad).

So now you're down to Ann, Makoto, and Hifumi and that's assuming you don't ship the former with Ryuji.

You see what I mean; Kasumi adds another option fortunately, but it sure is lopsided.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Apr 6th 2020 at 2:10:37 PM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#57788: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:11:21 PM

Makoto definitely feels like the 'default' option, for lack of a better term.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#57789: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:12:59 PM

In my first run, i went with Ann. She's the lover arcana, that's the default ones usually.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57790: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:14:56 PM

This is all reminding me of the funniest part of Star Ocean 4:

Welch: I'm not just the little sister type, I have glasses on. GLASSES!

I think that sums up Futaba perfectly. This whole gag was mocking otakus and, well, there's a reason Futaba is a very popular ship... A reason identified by a mediocre video game from a decade before P5.

Edited by Nikkolas on Apr 6th 2020 at 11:15:12 AM

Kagamikazuto Kazuto from NC Since: Feb, 2020 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Kazuto
#57791: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:30:11 PM

Ohya gets bad rap for being such a cool lady. I feel bad for her.

Can't think of one.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#57792: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:32:38 PM

You might need max Proficiency for Haru, but you need max Charm for Makoto

her confidant story is kinda sucky too

The anime was kinda crap, but at least it had the Thieves changing Tsubasa's heart.

[up] Ohya is a lush who has the worst Confidant skill in the game, bar none.

Edited by asterism on Apr 6th 2020 at 6:34:13 PM

Bewitching Eyes
RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#57793: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:34:15 PM

[up] Charm was easy to raise though and the requirement is later.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57794: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:35:35 PM

[up][up] Oh shit speaking of the anime we’ll prolly get a Royal sequel to cover the new shit in Royal like with Golden.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Kagamikazuto Kazuto from NC Since: Feb, 2020 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Kazuto
#57795: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:39:55 PM

I ain't talking about her skill tho, I mean she seems really down to earth and less waifu-y which is something I never thought I'd ever say.

Can't think of one.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57796: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:44:32 PM

People don't like Ohya mainly for her terrible skills, not her character

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#57797: Apr 6th 2020 at 11:46:10 PM

I didn't really care much for her character either.

I will always appreciate Amanda Winn Lee's drunk voice though.

Bewitching Eyes
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#57798: Apr 7th 2020 at 12:01:29 AM

I think that sums up Futaba perfectly. This whole gag was mocking otakus and, well, there's a reason Futaba is a very popular ship... A reason identified by a mediocre video game from a decade before P5.

Futaba really doesn't fit that little sister type. Those are dutiful and more composed than the main character, in recent years they don't wear glasses. Mikan from To Love Ru for example is that.

Futaba is smart but also a smartass. She does not fit the personality type being mocked... she better fits Welch herself.

I personally dont ship the Joker and Futaba, she isnt in any way emotionally ready even after her link is done. Yu and Naoto/Rise in P4 are the same ages respectively and they actually are well adjusted enough by the end of their link to the point it makes sense.

.... yes Futaba, Naoto, Rise, Kanji and Fuuka are all the same age in their story. Futaba is the only one where it really doesn't fit for her to be dating.

deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#57799: Apr 7th 2020 at 12:03:16 AM

Which is definitely more important than the whole sister thing.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#57800: Apr 7th 2020 at 2:04:56 AM

So I was looking around and found out that Film Critic Hulk actually played Persona 5 and wrote an esssay about some of its strengths and weaknesses.

I'm actually really glad he did this, because I feel that better than anyone else he captured my overall feelings on the game, both positive and negative, and got to the heart of why despite enjoying the game for the most part, I've been rather down on it and persona as a franchise ever since. Regardless of whether you like P5 or not I think it's worth a read.


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