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My apologies it was this post where I started reading the current discussion https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=j51x8blwkxfqfunro3hx3vd2&page=2276#comment-56876
And literally all I did was say what I felt about these new insert characters. I didn't say "Kasumi can't save the godforsaken trash heap that is P5." I just said I didn't care and moved on.
I mean, I gush about Persona 4 because it's one of the best games I've ever played in my life. I can't help that and I don't think I'm unfair or exclusionary. I love P2 and P3 as well and I think I mention their virtues enough, although P2 doesn't come up as often for obvious reasons. I've said multiple times for example P3 has far and a way the best ending in the series and P2 and P3 have way better final bosses than P4.
A If people wanna snipe at me I 'll defend myself because I simply don't think I deserve it in this instance.
Pretty much. I used to complain about it, actually. Before 2017 I read so many threads about how Persona 3 and 4 had the best writing ever in any JRPG. And I was like "I never played them. They're probably not that great."
I was very wrong as it turns out but yeah, P4 has been a phenomenon for a long, long time.
I'm still not sure how Persona 1 had the most sales of any of the games since nobody gave ashit about the franchise until 3.
Edited by Nikkolas on Oct 11th 2019 at 6:54:21 AM
Due to the fact Persona stayed a bit behind on the consoles, I recall P4 was released at the end of the PS 2's life-span & there was no major P game released for most of the majority of the PS 3 life-span the P franchise was more of a cult hit.
The arrival of the Arena in the Fighting Game Community, a little bit of PQ, and then P5's release is what helped launch the franchise into the greater mainstream.
P5's good advertising & upping the gameplay really helped it sell well.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 11th 2019 at 6:58:50 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."From a gameplay perspective, 5 pleases a lot of fans across the board, dropping the card-based shuffle mechanics in favor of Shadow negotiation, makes fusion a bigger part of getting Personas, introduces a lot of new Confidant abilities that effect battle, and generally just makes strategy a lot more fluid. Also it helps most of the dungeon crawling is actually hand-crafted this time and not an afterthought.
And Considered it was Confirmed Persona 6 was in early development last year, I expect it to be even more popular thanks to probably being on Shiny new Playstation hardware. Especially since they don't have to worry about using an outdated PS 3 engine for a PS 4 port like with 5.
Daiki Itoh being in charge of P6 would be great, since with the past few remakes he directed, he's been riding on Katsura Hoshino's coat tails to expand the existing story instead of creating one from the ground up, though 5R seems to be an experiment in trying to expand it enough that it feels like a different story entirely by the end.
Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Oct 11th 2019 at 11:24:51 AM
Watch Symphogear
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Honestly, I try to be constructive. I've liked 4 out of 5 Persona games and that ain't bad. I can fanboy about Innocent Sin if people prefer. I have listed it a along with P 4 G as my Top Tier SMT games and it deserves it because it's beautifully written, had great music and just overall leaves you with that quintessential Persona feeling that makes us all fans of the series. "Persona made me feel like I had friends."
Edited by Nikkolas on Oct 11th 2019 at 9:46:38 AM
It's definitely a weird feeling for Persona as a series to really take off in popularity for me because it was at the same time I had become disillusioned with it.
Makes me feel like a hipster.
This song needs more love.I like all the SMT and Persona games to some degree.
P5 is just my current Favorite, and the Royal seems like it will be even better. Thats fine by me.
Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Oct 11th 2019 at 1:12:38 PM
Watch SymphogearIn spite of all its flaws, I still find myself liking 5
I just ignore all the stuff I don't like
Bewitching Eyesyeah honestly that's starting to look like you're getting offended on the behalf of people that are perfectly fine with nikk, there.
i'm probably a good contender for the biggest p5 fan of this thread and I have zero issues with anything nikk has said here for... quite a fucking long time now, actually.
"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."Honestly as a game P 4 G was a nice update and Marie getting a superior design when she melts her trash body down to become a moth-like goddess was beautiful. It's 10/10 bangable alongside straight jacket Izanami.
I do wish I could do more with the heavily in the closet policeman Yu keeps flirting with.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Oct 11th 2019 at 10:31:05 AM
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

W hen I burst into a P3 talk to say "ya know guys Joker was the worst MC ever" - and I've never done anything even vaguely of the sort - that could be problem.
Let me put this a different way. I have never seen you admit that Persona 5 could be liked for anything outside of aesthetics, while plenty of people here can admit the positives of other persona games that they either don't like or are lukewarm on. And your P4 opinions are usually so gushy that they grate to read. I don't advocate sniping at you, but I'm not surprised when it happens either.
Edited by VeryMelon on Oct 11th 2019 at 4:09:04 AM