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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#201: Jul 4th 2009 at 10:45:28 AM

At this point, I feel that it might be best just to post a piece of the revised ED from my favourite character, it's somehow appropriate:

With a warp, this looping feeling Swirls everything together and destroys them.

Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#202: Jul 4th 2009 at 11:18:51 AM

Oh by the way, because I was bored, I analyzed the new opening and wrote down all the terms flying around there.

I'm only missing certain formulas, because they're tough to find through google so someone with actual math knowledge should check them out.

WilliamWideWeb (weaving) Since: Jan, 2001
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#203: Jul 4th 2009 at 12:42:20 PM

Hey, can I have a look? I'm pretty good with math.

SHIKI is dead.
Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#204: Jul 4th 2009 at 12:55:02 PM

It's difficult to write them down at all, since I have no idea what most of those symbols mean or how to write them.

Here's a good quality video. Basically, everything flying around at the bottom, during the white background scene.

There's one during the second scene where the whole stuff is in the background, which is something like [Sy , Sz] = Sy Sz - Sz Sy = ihSx and I don't know what of them is supposed to be a letter from the greek alphabet and what not (Ugh, they look too similar).

The only one I could actually get was E² = (mc²)² + (pc)² and the Planck constant.

Edit: I notice I said "math knowledge" but this is all physics stuff. Sorry about that.

edited 4th Jul '09 12:56:13 PM by Smokie

THX1138 Since: Dec, 1969
#205: Jul 4th 2009 at 1:59:48 PM

Hang on a tic

The Plan

So hey, at the top of the page in that link...well this:

Kyon: "Nagato, how many times did you tell me about this endless summer thing, and in my rage I raped Haruhi?" Nagato: "There are 2,743 occasions of you taking Haruhi's virginity against her will." Nagato: "On 247 of those occasions you also raped Asahina-san and on 230 occasions you... " looks away and blushes

..is an actual quote from the book? Because if it is then...fuck I'm not sure what to think of Kyon anymore.

edited 4th Jul '09 2:00:05 PM by THX1138

Anemotaxis legacy interface Since: May, 2009
Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#207: Jul 4th 2009 at 2:19:11 PM

Maybe he was thinking that.

But no, of course it's not an actual quote. tongue

edited 4th Jul '09 2:19:25 PM by Smokie

THX1138 Since: Dec, 1969
#208: Jul 4th 2009 at 3:02:44 PM

Huh. In a weird way...I'm almost disappointed, because if it were an actual quote, that'd be just too fucked up for me to not cave and read the damn thing.

edited 4th Jul '09 3:03:22 PM by THX1138

Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
THX1138 Since: Dec, 1969
#210: Jul 4th 2009 at 3:32:00 PM

sidelong glance at backlog of American TP Bs and Aristotle texts on desk Yeah, no tongue.

WilliamWideWeb (weaving) Since: Jan, 2001
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#211: Jul 4th 2009 at 4:04:10 PM

[Sy , Sz] = Sy Sz - Sz Sy = ihSx
That one is an identity of the Pauli matrices.

SHIKI is dead.
WilliamWideWeb (weaving) Since: Jan, 2001
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#212: Jul 4th 2009 at 4:18:02 PM

Also, I saw Maxwell's equations somewhere in there(the four rows each one with an equation), looking at the video. If it were in a form where I could actually see it instead of having it blocked by Haruhi and the random other characters it would be a lot easier.

edited 4th Jul '09 4:18:20 PM by WilliamWideWeb

SHIKI is dead.
Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
WilliamWideWeb (weaving) Since: Jan, 2001
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#214: Jul 4th 2009 at 5:30:00 PM

Thank you! That should help a lot

That second one is beta decay—a down quark shifts to an up quark(turning the neutron it's in to a proton), giving off an antineutrino and an electron.

The fourth one is the equation for Compton scattering.

Not sure about the rest. I'm almost certain, though, that all of them are various phenomena in quantum physics.

edited 4th Jul '09 5:30:20 PM by WilliamWideWeb

SHIKI is dead.
Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#215: Jul 4th 2009 at 7:25:16 PM

Most of the terms I've seen are quarks like strange, charm, etc. Are there any Lewis structures in the new OP? I haven't really bothered with checking it out...

src9 Since: Dec, 1969
#216: Jul 4th 2009 at 7:58:52 PM

I'm not going to defend that idea, instead Im just going to say that I like it, because it showed how whiny average anime viewers are. evil grin

Also, Grahf, the fans are not defending it, the fans are as angry as you. And is very weird that you refer to "the fans" as other person, because I trough you were the biggest one here tongue

edited 4th Jul '09 7:59:49 PM by src9

Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#217: Jul 4th 2009 at 8:22:52 PM

I'm not going to defend that idea, instead Im just going to say that I like it, because it showed how whiny average anime viewers are. evil grin

Also, Grahf, the fans are not defending it, the fans are as angry as you. And is very weird that you refer to "the fans" as other person, because I trough you were the biggest one here tongue

Although I can't really dispute the charge of being whiny (although at least I gave reasons beyond "I hate this because I do, nrr"), I can address the other points:

I'm sort of aware that people aren't defending it now, aside from those that think it's a hilarious trolling. I'm saying that if/when there starts to be new content - i.e. not Endless Eight - starting up, that all will be forgiven, and I just think that that's a bitter pill to take. This isn't one of those things that will be liked right now, but I have a bad, bad feeling that in a years time that this will be touted as innovation and a brilliant idea that was way ahead of its time, and that really, honestly turns my stomach.

And yeah, I'm being a little harsh with the lumping, I went overboard. However, I think it's fair to say that at the moment I AM NOT a fan of the show. What I am a fan of, however, is the story. A story that as of this moment has apparently taken a backseat in the show because someone out there thought that it would be a fan-fucking-tastic idea to pull some postmodern temporal causality bullshit out of their ass. The story deserves better than that, because it deserves to actually be told.

I have no way of proving this, and no doubt this will come off big talk on a small subject, but if Endless Eight doesn't end next week, then I'm not watching anymore, I won't even download the episode, nor will I until there's some actual new content, even the rest of this season is Endless Eight as some sort of sick joke. I say this, because if I just stand around complaining while still rushing to download each episode, then I'm nothing but a huge fucking hypocrite that has the limp dick in his mouth of whoever's bright idea this was, group or person.

I'm well aware that one person stopping illegally watching the show isn't going to make a difference, but I don't care. And frankly, I'd encourage anyone else who is displeased with the current state of affairs to do the same thing if the above situation occurs. I know that for some people it might not be the right choice, but for me at least, it is.

/angry tirade

/character self-suicide

edited 4th Jul '09 8:23:05 PM by Grahf

Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#218: Jul 4th 2009 at 10:03:59 PM

And thus we hope that Haruhi doesn't Divide by Zero.

Nornagest Since: Jan, 2001
#219: Jul 5th 2009 at 12:16:23 AM

Dude, you should really try to relax. They're trying something unusual. It's not really working, but that's no reason to act like it's a personal insult.

Rabid complaints like this are why I rarely associate with fans.

edited 5th Jul '09 12:28:44 AM by Nornagest

I will keep my soul in a place out of sight, Far off, where the pulse of it is not heard.
Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#220: Jul 5th 2009 at 3:49:43 AM

I'm quite the fan myself, but I'm looking at this with the air of half-annoyance and Fridge Brilliance. Makes sense that each time, they show how bored Yuki is, but they're just overdoing it.

Other than that, I'm just another True Neutral.

dkellis Since: Jan, 2001
#221: Jul 5th 2009 at 3:58:16 AM

Rabid complaints like this are why I rarely associate with fans.

However, I think it's fair to say that at the moment I AM NOT a fan of the show.

I know Grahf mentioned being a fan of the story, but I thought this was very slightly amusing.

edited 5th Jul '09 3:59:52 AM by dkellis

Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#222: Jul 5th 2009 at 11:11:27 AM

Dude, you should really try to relax. They're trying something unusual. It's not really working, but that's no reason to act like it's a personal insult.

Rabid complaints like this are why I rarely associate with fans.

I'm not acting like it's a personal insult. If I were, then I'd be getting all weepy and emo about how Kyo Ani is "ruining my favourite anime of all time". Sure, people complained about the episode, and I'm roughly the only one who took the ball and ran with it, but I'm hardly driving this into the ground, although I'll admit that it's starting to get close.

You and I must have completely different definition of "rabid complaints" because I'd like to think that casual swearing and lewd euphemisms aside that all of my arguments hold at least a bit of water. Besides, my biggest posts - #176, #178 and #217 - were responses to messages that I either thought were directed at me, or clearly were. So, you know, sorry for replying with my thought process on how I came to hold such a vehement stance on things. I'm not going to hold back on something that I believe is wrong, but if people are so sick of it then they can at least say something.

I know that you must have pictured or be picturing me in front of a computer, slamming hamhocks into the keyboard with a beet red rage face. But despite my "rabid" complaining, I'm nowhere near as enraged as anyone here probably thinks I am. Much like Excel and THX, at this point I'm in it for the sake of arguments. I've made mine, I've responded to commentary, I've fleshed out my arguments and I've made my stance clear. The only thing that I've done that would strike me as unacceptable as that I've probably let more bile spew than usual, but this is hardly a formal arena for argumentation, so whatever.

tl;dr - I'm not trying to be an asshole here, nor a raging fanboy or anti-fanboy or any kind of fanboy. And if you want me to stop complaining, then fine, just say so. I'd like to believe that at this point I've said all I can rationally say on this anyways.

Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#223: Jul 5th 2009 at 11:41:09 AM

I think I'd feel more ashamed to be associated with a fanbase that mindlessly accepts whatever bullshit the studio throws at them.

dkellis Since: Jan, 2001
#224: Jul 5th 2009 at 4:55:54 PM

I think I'd feel more ashamed to be associated with a fanbase that mindlessly accepts whatever bullshit the studio throws at them.

And this is the sort of comment which irritates me, because "fanbase" here would include me. Therefore, this comment states that I am mindless and I accept whatever Bad Things the studio "throws at" me.

It's hard not to feel at least slightly insulted by this.

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#225: Jul 5th 2009 at 6:24:17 PM

THX 1138: No, that quote is thankfully not in the book. Also in the book we only see the last iteration of Endless Eight. The books, I believe, are better than the anime and a lot less confusing and a lot less anger-inducing.

The anime is good in its own way, but I prefer the books... Wait, I've said that before!

edited 5th Jul '09 6:33:45 PM by GameGuruGG

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