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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#401: May 18th 2011 at 4:34:29 PM

No- she deliberately did it in the Burning Plains.

She didn't deliberately kill him, the same as someone who pushes you off a building doesn't deliberately kill you. After all not their fault you can't survive a hit to the ground.

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#402: May 18th 2011 at 4:39:04 PM

You have to remember that dragons have a slightly Blue-and-Orange Morality by our standards.

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#403: May 18th 2011 at 4:49:27 PM

All she did was make a scene, basically. Startling the horse is risky, but it doesn't ensure the rider will die. Hardly the same as pushing someone off a building.

CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#404: May 18th 2011 at 4:58:48 PM

It does on the Burning Plains =/ You know, the place with the constantly eruptinghot geysers?

And I don't care if Saphira has a different morality. She killed a messenger under truce.

Hell, in our world, that really is tantamount to giving them the finger and saying 'Fuck you ya Nazi bastards!"

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#405: May 18th 2011 at 5:00:32 PM

Don't forget that it was only because the empire killed the varden's messengers.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#406: May 18th 2011 at 5:11:27 PM

Quote, please?

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#407: May 18th 2011 at 5:18:54 PM

(Empires Messenger): "So flee I say, or suffer the doom of your herald"

With that the soldier untied a canvas sack and flourished a severed head.

Yeah… doesn't get much clearer than that.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#408: May 18th 2011 at 5:21:07 PM

Hmmmm...

Nope. A herald isn't an ambassador; it's a messenger. Sorry, there's no flag of truce for heralds.

Of course, this could invalidate everything I said.

I will say, though, that an eye for an eye don't work. Congratulations, Saphira, you sunk to the Empire's level. Only you couldn't even have the decency to end his life yourself.

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#409: May 18th 2011 at 5:26:18 PM

I don't think killin one person (who it seems to me clearly provoked her) makes her sink to the empires level.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#410: May 18th 2011 at 5:29:20 PM

Killing one person who is under the flag of truce does.

It's essentially saying "Truces mean nothing to us. If we don't like you, you're dead anyway."

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#411: May 18th 2011 at 5:30:16 PM

Hasn't Eragon always been that way? It's ok as long as it's the enemy?

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#412: May 18th 2011 at 5:31:15 PM

It was only after the empire had showed that truce meant nothing to them either. Still wrong, but not as bad as you say.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#413: May 18th 2011 at 5:33:11 PM

... That's exactly what I meant by saying she was as bad as the Empire.

What, they did it so it's fine for us to do it?

Does that mean the Varden is set to kidnap some random woman, drug her, poison her and pump her for information? I mean, the Empire did it first, it's totes justifiable!

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#414: May 18th 2011 at 5:35:26 PM

Well, it can work. Take the series Animorphs for example. The main running theme is how has war goes on, black and white morality is not so black and white. You get a lot of angstage and calling out amongst the cast, as they make not so pretty decisions. In the last book, Jake is pretty much called a terrorist at one point, and even though he gets off, he's pretty shaken up about it.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#415: May 18th 2011 at 5:36:37 PM

The narrative there doesn't try and portray it positively, though.

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#416: May 18th 2011 at 5:36:59 PM

You are absolutely correct. cool

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#417: May 18th 2011 at 5:40:28 PM

It doestnt try too hard to portray it favorably here either, Paolini just doesn't focus as much on the angst, but it is clear that the characters are uncomfortable with it.

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#418: May 18th 2011 at 5:40:56 PM

Show, Don't Tell.

edited 18th May '11 5:41:04 PM by MrAHR

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#419: May 18th 2011 at 5:41:48 PM

Whut?

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#420: May 18th 2011 at 5:46:38 PM

Eragon wasn't shown to be uncomfortable with it. At all.

We were told he was. But he never acted it.

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#421: May 18th 2011 at 5:47:43 PM

Are we even talking about the same books?!?

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#423: May 18th 2011 at 5:50:02 PM

Hells yes.

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dontcallmewave Brony? Moi? surely you jest! from My home Since: Nov, 2013
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#424: May 18th 2011 at 5:53:06 PM

It showed quite a bit in the books I've read.

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