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Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#5026: May 1st 2011 at 9:53:54 AM

I was going to say that Haste and Bloodthirst seems slightly "unfun" to me, but it occurs to me that you'd still get to have your murdercake and murdereat it too if you send a bolt to their dome pre-combat.

Speaking of which, does the formatting of this card irk anyone else a little? Given the way Bloodthirst works, it really should be "Bloodthirst X, where X is the amount of damage dealt to your opponents this turn", instead of defining it in the reminder text. </magicpedant>

Productivity is for people without internet connections. -Count Dorku
Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#5027: May 1st 2011 at 10:05:15 AM

Yeah, that one always bugged me. It would've worked just fine given text similar to Fumiko the Lowblood. It's especially annoying because they've basically made it so they can't do bloodthirst X for any other meaning of X.

I guess it is.
blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#5028: May 1st 2011 at 10:07:18 AM

Then they can do Y, or Z, if it's important.

Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
Gerald Zosewater
#5029: May 1st 2011 at 11:41:30 AM

There's always Oracle text.

Ruining everything forever.
GuyInWhite Morgan Freeman is God. from Dry Cleaning Since: Jan, 2011
Morgan Freeman is God.
#5030: May 1st 2011 at 12:39:17 PM

Hey guys, I just went to my local card shop and bought the Scorch the world with Dragonfire Archenemy set and the Knights vs. Dragons Duel decks, and threw together a Karrthus EDH deck with the spare cards I have lying around.

Here's the thread on MTGSalvation if anyone wants to suggest additions/removals or otherwise help with tweaking the deck.

edited 1st May '11 12:39:36 PM by GuyInWhite

Why I am afraid of fences.
Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
Gerald Zosewater
#5031: May 1st 2011 at 1:14:00 PM

Burn spells tend to lose a lot of their effectiveness in EDH. Stuff like Fireball can be good, and Earthquake is great, but I don't think you'll want Lightning Bolt or Burst Lightning unless you can't find anything that works as a better threat. Seething Song is pretty bad for EDH. You'd need a much better deal before trading card advantage for tempo is worth it.

Granted, I haven't seen all the cards, so there might be interactions I'm missing.

Hmm, if you're playing with fatties, maybe you could toss in a Tainted Strike? You still only need 10 poison counters for a kill, and it shouldn't be too unlikely for you to get an unblocked creature swinging for 9. Fling might work as a substitute for your minor burn. It can be a loss of card advantage, but it can really do some damage and you could just use your general and summon it again. Or maybe Assault Strobe or Double Cleave would be better? Oh, and since you have some disenchant cards, you should really use Slice in Twain. Cantrips are generally worth the additional mana cost in EDH. Creeping Corrosion could be a good way to wreck combos and get card advantage, especially if you;re light on artifacts. Shatterstorm and Shattering Spree can also work if you can find them.

If you want to spend a little more, Krosan Grip is probably the best disenchant for EDH, and I've heard people say it's practically a necessity for them to use a Sol Ring in their decks.

Ruining everything forever.
CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#5032: May 1st 2011 at 2:35:34 PM

Heh. Someone on Gatherer came up with the greatest New Tezz combo.

Liquimetal Coating + his -1 ability + Enchanted Evening + Runed Stalactite + Life and Limb + Rimefeather Owl.

Net result: Snow Artifact Creature Enchantment Land Planeswalker - Forest Tezzeret Advisor Ally Angel, Anteater, Antelope, Ape, Archer, Archon, Artificer, Assassin, Assembly-Worker, Atog, Aurochs, Avatar, Badger, Barbarian, Basilisk, Bat, Bear, Beast, Beeble, Berserker, Bird, Blinkmoth, Boar, Bringer, Brushwagg, Camarid, Camel, Caribou, Carrier, Cat, Centaur, Cephalid, Chimera, Citizen, Cleric, Cockatrice, Construct, Coward, Crab, Crocodile, Cyclops, Dauthi, Demon, Deserter, Devil, Djinn, Dragon, Drake, Dreadnought, Drone, Druid, Dryad, Dwarf, Efreet, Egg, Elder, Eldrazi, Elemental, Elephant, Elf, Elk, Eye, Faerie, Ferret, Fish, Flagbearer, Fox, Frog, Fungus, Gargoyle, Giant, Gnome, Goat, Goblin, Golem, Gorgon, Graveborn, Griffin, Hag, Harpy, Hellion, Hippo, Homarid, Homunculus, Horror, Horse, Hound, Human, Hydra, Hyena, Illusion, Imp, Incarnation, Insect, Jellyfish, Juggernaut, Kavu, Kirin, Kithkin, Knight, Kobold, Kor, Kraken, Lammasu, Leech, Leviathan, Lhurgoyf, Licid, Lizard, Manticore, Masticore, Mercenary, Merfolk, Metathran, Minion, Minotaur, Monger, Mongoose, Monk, Moonfolk, Mutant, Myr, Mystic, Nautilus, Nephilim, Nightmare, Nightstalker, Ninja, Noggle, Nomad, Octopus, Ogre, Ooze, Orb, Orc, Orgg, Ouphe, Ox, Oyster, Pegasus, Pentavite, Pest, Phelddagrif, Phoenix, Pincher, Pirate, Plant, Praetor, Prism, Rabbit, Rat, Rebel, Reflection Rhino Rigger Rogue Salamander Samurai Sand Saproling Satyr Scarecrow Scorpion Scout Serf Serpent Shade Shaman Shapeshifter Sheep Siren Skeleton Slith Sliver Slug Snake Soldier Soltari Spawn Specter Spellshaper Sphinx Spider Spike Spirit Splinter Sponge Squid Squirrel Starfish Surrakar Survivor Tetravite Thalakos Thopter Thrull Treefolk Triskelavite Troll Turtle Unicorn Vampire Vedalken Viashino Volver Wall Warrior Weird Whale Wizard Wolf Wolverine Wombat Worm Wraith Wurm Yeti Zombie Zubera oh you get the idea

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#5033: May 1st 2011 at 2:37:35 PM

Add Prismatic Omen and Leyline of Singularity.

edited 1st May '11 2:38:11 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#5034: May 1st 2011 at 2:42:03 PM

Nice.

Now if only there was some way to make him a Shrine...

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#5035: May 1st 2011 at 3:11:16 PM

I seem to remember seeing a combo in one of the Wizards articles that would make a Sol Ring "just a Sol Ring". I.e., it would make it not an artifact, and colorless. No types at all, just a permanent called Sol Ring.

Can't remember what the combo was now.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#5037: May 1st 2011 at 3:41:36 PM

Neurok Transmuter + March of the Machines. It'll actually be blue rather than colourless, though.

I guess it is.
Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#5038: May 1st 2011 at 4:12:31 PM

Ah, yes, and Moonlace will make it not blue any more, for one turn.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#5039: May 1st 2011 at 4:43:19 PM

Actually, Moonlace lasts indefinitely.

I guess it is.
Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#5040: May 1st 2011 at 4:48:16 PM

...huh, so it does.

This makes me want to make a blue deck that makes all its permanents typeless. The only benefit I can really see to this would be that shit would get really difficult to target.

"Destroy target artif- wait, damn."
"Destroy target nonblack creature! Wait, it's not a creature any more."\\

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#5041: May 1st 2011 at 4:54:57 PM

[up] "ALL RIGHT THEN! SIDE IN ARGENTUM FUCKING ARMOUR! ARE YOU HAPPY!? THAT! IS!! NOT!!! MY!!!! COW!!!!!"

edited 1st May '11 4:55:15 PM by CountDorku

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#5043: May 1st 2011 at 5:01:48 PM

if Sam Vimes were a planeswalker he would always and forever be my general.

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
Gerald Zosewater
#5044: May 1st 2011 at 5:07:00 PM

Silly. Only legendary creatures can be generals.

Ruining everything forever.
Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#5045: May 1st 2011 at 5:11:18 PM

Sam vimes, IS legendary. He's so awesome he bends the rules and lets me play him :P

edited 1st May '11 5:11:56 PM by Lanceleoghauni

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
antic disposition
#5046: May 1st 2011 at 5:35:47 PM

^^He can be like Gideon, but he turns into a Planeswalker instead.

"Doctor Who means never having to say you're kidding." - Bocaj
Roland Since: Jan, 2001
#5047: May 2nd 2011 at 12:05:28 PM

So is it just me, or is Standard basically its own, completely insane game that kind of sucks a lot of the joy of constructing a deck out of the game? Or am I just an inveterate Timmy type who can't stand hard agro and other such Boring, but Practical mechanisms?

(A friend of mine who is a bit of a Magic prima donna told me that I would have to pay him to play my Battle Cry deck in Standard, because it would just be a waste of his time since my deck would clearly never stand a chance against the current Standard decks dominant.)

edited 2nd May '11 12:10:26 PM by Roland

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#5048: May 2nd 2011 at 2:21:03 PM

It can be fun sometimes. I prefer casual though.

Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
Burn
#5049: May 2nd 2011 at 2:27:24 PM

There's other formats that are fun and aren't like Standard.

Elder Dragon Highlander/Commander in particular is designed to appeal to Timmies, and is rarely ever competitive. And there's always good old limited, where you construct a deck on the fly. Just playing casually is always an option too.

I don't see what's wrong with entering an Friday Night Magic tourney with a metalcraft deck; sure, you'll lose most likely, but you'll also have fun and you might get some helpful tips on how to improve it. Unless your scene is very competitive (AKA Jace the Mindsculptor playsets), in which case I'd suggest staying out.

edited 2nd May '11 2:29:18 PM by Scardoll

Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
GodofAwesome Since: Jul, 2010
#5050: May 2nd 2011 at 5:02:08 PM

Do decks made of opposing colors, say Black/White, suck?


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