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If Oscar Wilde had lived in our time, he would be a /b/tard.

Actually, scratch that. He does, and goes by Jethro Q Walrustitty.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 11th 2022 at 8:59:26 AM

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#65827: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:37:47 PM

Sir, actually play videogames before you make sweeping statements about them.

That is all I have to say.

And if you say that you have played videogames, then, well you've obviously been playing a very specific kind if you think they portray the world in black in white all the time.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
RocketDude Since: May, 2009
#65828: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:38:04 PM

@yarrunmace: I would refer you to:

edited 16th Apr '11 8:38:58 PM by RocketDude

juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#65829: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:38:53 PM

Not all videogmaes have a black and white morality. And as Malk said, videogames are hardly the first (or the most popular, culturally speaking) medium to use it.

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
TheRavenHouse Exists when you see him. from North east of south west Since: Apr, 2011
Exists when you see him.
#65830: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:39:42 PM

@Dude and don't forget Ultima, Ultima is like the pinnacle of complexity in videogame story line (The seventh one anyway)

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
KingOfKings from Santiago Since: Feb, 2011
#65831: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:41:38 PM

And Mother, and Metal Gear, and pretty much every non-sanbox, non-war game made since the 90s.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#65832: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:42:01 PM

But on the other side, Modern Warfare. It's not like he doesn't have a point.

[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.
TheRavenHouse Exists when you see him. from North east of south west Since: Apr, 2011
Exists when you see him.
#65833: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:43:24 PM

@Tzetze well modern warfare is, guess what... WAR! in war there usually is an absolute enemy. and i think i remember some more complex missions, though i haven't played in awhile.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#65834: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:45:17 PM

in war there usually is an absolute enemy

lulz

But yeah, if anything the problem is with media aimed for kids and young adults, which are usually going to have simplistic moral conflicts no matter what the medium.

[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.
juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#65835: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:46:44 PM

[up]

edited 16th Apr '11 8:47:10 PM by juancarlos11

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
yarrunmace Ghosts' Poet from Seine Since: Jun, 2009
Ghosts' Poet
#65836: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:46:48 PM

I kind of meant the garden-variety "kill-everything-in-your-path" videogame. I should have specified the kind of videogames with excuse plots, since I have played games with actual plots.

And I just realized that, even using this watered-down definition of a videogame, my argument makes no sense. The argument that I used can be applied to any badly-written action story in every type of media ever, and there are still a good amount of action-ish books and movies that aren't so simplistic. So, I should assume that a simplistic view will pervade every action game with an excuse plot.

In short, I had a stupid thought and didn't realize it was stupid. Please forgive me.

you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too cramped
Malkavian What is this from madness Since: Jan, 2001
What is this
#65837: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:47:28 PM

The plain fact of it is that despite all the shit out there, in modern eras we have more of a demand for complex quality stories and media than ever, and thanks to volume we're getting it. Sure there are twenty Halo 2s for Ever Silent Hill 2 but we've got more Silent Hill 2s than ever before.

In honesty, I'm less worried about black-and-white morality in fiction than I am about the absolute brain poison that are things like Jersey Shore and Americas Next Top Model which encourage the worst excesses of self-absorbsion.

edited 16th Apr '11 8:49:41 PM by Malkavian

"Everyone wants an answer, don't they?... I hate things with answers." — Grant Morrison
KingOfKings from Santiago Since: Feb, 2011
#65838: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:47:47 PM

[up][up][up][up] But why does that happen?

Is there anything all humans have in common? Breathing doesn't count, since some people don't.

edited 16th Apr '11 8:48:04 PM by KingOfKings

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TheRavenHouse Exists when you see him. from North east of south west Since: Apr, 2011
Exists when you see him.
#65839: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:48:07 PM

So what your saying is "Yeah my argument makes no sense, but only if you think about it"

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#65840: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:48:35 PM

Existing.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
TheRavenHouse Exists when you see him. from North east of south west Since: Apr, 2011
Exists when you see him.
#65841: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:49:25 PM

@Spain Nope! infinite amount of people don't do that.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
KingOfKings from Santiago Since: Feb, 2011
#65842: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:54:27 PM

Not really infinite right now, but a lot of people.

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#65843: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:57:47 PM

Depends on how you define 'person' and 'all'.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
KingOfKings from Santiago Since: Feb, 2011
#65844: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:59:45 PM

Yeah. How about "living humans" instead of all people?

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yarrunmace Ghosts' Poet from Seine Since: Jun, 2009
Ghosts' Poet
#65845: Apr 16th 2011 at 8:59:59 PM

@ Raven House: It's more like "my argument had huge, gaping holes but I didn't see them because I wasn't looking for them" or "It Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time"

you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too cramped
juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#65846: Apr 16th 2011 at 9:01:19 PM

Just because you're dead doesn't mean you stop existing...

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
KingOfKings from Santiago Since: Feb, 2011
#65847: Apr 16th 2011 at 9:02:23 PM

Depends on how you define dead and existing. tongue

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CentralAvenue Literally A Princess from The Palace of Serenity Since: Sep, 2014
Literally A Princess
#65848: Apr 16th 2011 at 9:03:33 PM

What about all the people who never existed, dead or otherwise?

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TheRavenHouse Exists when you see him. from North east of south west Since: Apr, 2011
Exists when you see him.
#65849: Apr 16th 2011 at 9:05:47 PM

@Avenue That's what i meant.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

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