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Edited by Mrph1 on Oct 22nd 2024 at 8:06:39 PM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22276: Nov 18th 2019 at 5:28:25 PM

~Kindle4Light, maybe take it through "Is this an example?"" Or you could do a quick dip into the Pokemon thread if that's a bust.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22277: Nov 18th 2019 at 5:32:06 PM

Done to here besides the above.

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#22280: Nov 19th 2019 at 6:01:27 AM

~nombretomado: Just use the writeup here. Since it's an Older Than They Think entry, I don't see any point in adding newer examples.

Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#22281: Nov 19th 2019 at 7:34:31 AM

Hate Sink Header:

I just realized that it sometimes helps to address the following queries is a better way to phrase the latest portion of the header than the following queries might need to be addressed.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#22282: Nov 19th 2019 at 9:28:22 AM

May i please add to the Pokemon Sword and Shield YMMV page under memetic mutation:

After it was announced a certain amount of Pokemon would not be in the game, jokes about Trainers and their/or Pokemon trying to sneak past the Galar region border have become abundant. Sometimes by recoloring a pokemon and pretending it's a Galar Pokemon.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
DarkChirano Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#22283: Nov 19th 2019 at 10:22:43 AM

Got another one for the Pokemon Sword and Shield YMMV page:

  • Author's Saving Throw (after the Galarian form entry)
    • For the past two generations, there's been at least one type with either only two new Pokemon, only one new evolutionary family, or bothnote . Pokémon Sword and Shield makes sure there's at least three new Pokemon of a given type across at least two different families.

Edited by DarkChirano on Nov 19th 2019 at 10:24:52 AM

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ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#22284: Nov 19th 2019 at 11:54:57 AM

At DC Video Games, for Justice League Heroes, for Brainiac, please wrap The Heavy around "launches a complex scheme" and de-Wiki-Word Martian Manhunter.

Also, at Marvel Literature, for 90s Strucker, please wrap No Swastikas around war criminal.

Edited by ACW on Nov 19th 2019 at 5:36:23 AM

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22285: Nov 19th 2019 at 5:04:51 PM

~RedHunter543, I can see a couple grammar issues in that request. Why don't you take it past the grammar thread, for a bit of a tune-up?

Done to here otherwise.

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#22286: Nov 19th 2019 at 6:31:53 PM

Please recreate and cut Loves Only Goldneeds One More Hat to get rid of a ghost wick.

nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
nombretomado (Season 1) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#22289: Nov 19th 2019 at 6:38:03 PM

Done.

ETA: moved thoughts on Hate Sink clean-up to that thread.

Edited by nombretomado on Nov 19th 2019 at 6:39:34 AM

ACW from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.) Since: Jul, 2009
#22290: Nov 20th 2019 at 12:59:07 AM

At DC Video Games, The Heavy should also be around "scheme" for Brainiac.

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#22291: Nov 20th 2019 at 5:44:34 AM

For the Hate Sink thread, I have a suggestion for restructuring the header in light of recent discussion.

     HS Overview 

The main concern of this trope is whether the narrative treats the character as someone intended to be despised.

In order for this trope to be in effect, the character in question must actually display detestable qualities, and be hated by other characters at least, or treated by the narrative like someone you are supposed to hate. The author's declared intent cements an example, but is not needed if the narrative itself treats the character as someone who is supposed to be hated.

Haman the Agagite, for instance, displays qualities of ego, bigotry, and pettiness; additionally, there is a custom of jeering at his name's mere mention. It goes without saying, according to this thread, that Haman was intended to be despised by the audience. Being a Draco in Leather Pants, like Draco Malfoy, or a character people Love to Hate, like Joffrey Baratheon, doesn't preclude being a Hate Sink; being a Complete Monster, like Haman, certainly doesn't preclude this trope either. In fact, being a Magnificent Bastard doesn't necessarily preclude this trope either.

A Hate Sink may have charismatic traits, a troubled past, or complexity, but in order for this trope to be in effect, such traits must be de-emphasized by the narrative in favour of their detestable traits.

With regards to this trope, actions still generally speak louder than words. The format of editing which brings up characters who don't fit the bill before mentioning the candidate's name doesn't generally go into enough detail with regards to what makes these characters loathsome.

The entries for this trope should ideally focus on who does qualify, rather than the characters who do not. However, denoting the fact that the character sets themselves apart from more charismatic/sympathetic/likeable characters of the setting is perfectly reasonable, and in some cases even necessary, so long as in doing so, one does not neglect to mention their despicable traits and actions.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Nov 20th 2019 at 8:48:06 AM

longWriter Since: Apr, 2012
#22292: Nov 20th 2019 at 6:18:54 AM

I'm a bit confused at the moment; I launched a supertrope for You Go, Girl! (meant to hold non-sports examples) less than two hours ago, and while I was still in the process of crosswicking the new page to its examples' work pages, I saw that the supertrope was locked, which is making it more difficult to crosswick. What I find really weird about it is that there weren't any edits at all on the new page at the time it was locked.

Showing Up Chauvinists is the page name.

EDIT: The lock is gone now; this might've been a bug.

Edited by longWriter on Nov 20th 2019 at 9:26:19 AM

infernape612 (Green Sprout) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#22293: Nov 20th 2019 at 8:38:15 AM

I'd like to request some edits for YMMV.Pokemon Sword And Shield.

For Awesome Music, add:

  • The Gym Leader theme, a techno piece that really captures the feel of Pokémon battling as a major sporting event.
  • Piers' theme, an epic remix of Team Yell's theme for the black sheep of the Gym Leaders.
  • Chairman Rose's theme, an epic orchestral piece with Ominous Latin Chanting that makes it clear how high the stakes are as you battle for the fate of the Galar region.
  • The Battle Tower theme, composed by none other than Toby Fox himself, is an energetic piece fitting for a climb up the ranks against the most powerful trainers in Galar.

For Epileptic Trees, change:

  • Due to the oddness of Leon, the Champion, being revealed so early and seemingly having a Signature Mon that does not in any way connect to the Galar region (a non-mega Charizard), speculation ran wild on the possibility that he, like Alder before him, would not be the final boss, but a post-game boss.
  • When Hop was introduced, he was referred to as "one of your rivals". This specific wording led some fans to believe that there may be more than one rival once again, similar to Pokémon Black & White and X & Y. The resulting rival being more of a jerkass is particularly hoped for.
To:
  • Due to the oddness of Leon, the Champion, being revealed so early and having a Signature Mon that does not in any way connect to the Galar region (a non-mega Charizard), speculation ran wild on the possibility that he, like Alder before him, would not be the final boss, but a post-game boss. This ultimately proved to be incorrect; he's the final boss as usual.
    • There was also speculation that, like Lusamine, the glowing praise in the trailer might be hiding the fact that he is either a Villain with Good Publicity or a Fake Ultimate Hero. Once again, this was incorrect. He's just as heroic and competent as he comes off as.
  • When Hop was introduced, he was referred to as "one of your rivals". This specific wording led some fans to believe that there may be more than one rival once again, similar to Pokémon Black and White and X and Y. The resulting rival being more of a jerkass was particularly hoped for. Ultimately, said fans proved correct with the introduction of Bede and Marnie as rivals, and Bede is the aforementioned jerkass.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#22294: Nov 20th 2019 at 8:44:06 AM

[up]Could you fix the indentation on the second epileptic trees entry.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Malady (X-Troper)
#22295: Nov 20th 2019 at 10:28:36 AM

Ghost wicks to BoyMeetsGirl:

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
RomanBowler Since: Feb, 2015
#22296: Nov 20th 2019 at 3:18:40 PM

Can you add something to the YMMV of Pokémon Sword and Shield under Author Saving Throw?

  • It took over twenty years but at long last, there is finally a traditional Dark-Type Gym Leader in the game, as the penultimate Gym Leader no less. Even when he steps down post game, his replacement is also a Dark-Type user.

Storygirl000 The Scarlet Queen from Somewhere in the Multiverse (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Scarlet Queen
#22297: Nov 20th 2019 at 3:56:23 PM

I have a couple of entries for Pokémon Sword and Shield:

  • Alternative Character Interpretation: The many meetings between the two throughout the game (most notably the one right before the Champion Cup), as well as Leon only telling Rose to change the date instead of stop outright, makes one wonder how much Leon knew about Chairman Rose's scheme to resurrect Eternatus prior to the climax.

(Edit: removed the Moral Event Horizon entry due to concerns raised about it. Also edited the other entry.)

Edited by Storygirl000 on Nov 23rd 2019 at 3:58:37 AM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#22298: Nov 20th 2019 at 4:45:52 PM

[up]I'm fairly certain that second one is misuse of Moral Event Horizon, since from what I've seen, that act doesn't push Rose into "irredeemable villain" territory.

You might want to run that particularly entry through the Moral Event Horizon cleanup thread just to be safe.

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#22299: Nov 20th 2019 at 5:17:52 PM

[up][up][up] Shouldn't that second sentence be spoiler tagged?

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#22300: Nov 20th 2019 at 5:45:09 PM

Okay my paragraph was spell checked, can this please be added to the Sword and Shield YMMV under memetic mutation.

After it was announced a certain number of Pokemon would not be in the game, jokes about Trainers and/or their Pokemon trying to sneak past the Galar region border have become abundant. Some of the jokes involve recoloring a Pokemon and pretending it's a Galar Pokemon.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"

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