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Tumbril Since: Feb, 2010
#51: Oct 25th 2010 at 4:57:27 PM

*11 was a racehorse
  • 22 was 12
  • 1111 race
  • 22112

"Eleven was a racehorse, Twenty-two was one too, Eleven won one race, Twenty-two won one too"? That last part could also be "Twenty-two won twelve".

I feel uneducated since this whole math derail is flying over my head. I'll come back in a few years and understand all of this, I swear! /shakes fist

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AlirozTheConfused Bibliophile. from Daz Huat! Since: May, 2010
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#52: Oct 29th 2010 at 10:29:23 AM

0/0 = 45.

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#53: Oct 29th 2010 at 10:37:04 AM

IF A+B=A+C THEN B=C
∞+1=∞+473829
THEREFORE 1=473829

Cue "Infinity doesn't work that way!"

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#54: Oct 30th 2010 at 1:47:16 PM

The problem isn't infinity, the problem is that the addition function is only well-defined for real numbers!

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AlirozTheConfused Bibliophile. from Daz Huat! Since: May, 2010
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#55: Nov 1st 2010 at 10:35:09 AM

So, I assume that another problem is that infinity is both a real and nonreal number, isn't it?

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#56: Nov 1st 2010 at 10:36:35 AM

Transfinite numbers aren't real numbers, and "nonreal" isn't actually in math.

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#57: Nov 1st 2010 at 3:35:12 PM

[up] That.

(Amendment to my previous assertion: the addition function is well-defined for all numbers on the complex plane, and possibly other sets that I don't remember, but still not for transfinite numbers.)

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#58: Nov 1st 2010 at 3:43:23 PM

I hate all of you. Math wants to kill me.

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#59: Nov 1st 2010 at 3:47:09 PM

[cries inside]

...How does an abstracted non-sapient system of truth statements desire to kill you? And, more practically, how would it succeed?

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
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#60: Nov 1st 2010 at 4:43:12 PM

When was the alst time you talked to math? There's something eerie about a clockwork universe of perfect reason and logic no?

It would make my brain divide by zero, or compute the last digit of pie, sending me into a vegatative state. Or screw up probablity.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#61: Nov 1st 2010 at 4:47:27 PM

There's something eerie about a clockwork universe of perfect reason and logic no?

Well, I might prefer that to a universe where my brain could spontaneously be replaced with a toaster.

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#62: Nov 1st 2010 at 6:28:21 PM

I've never "spoken to" math per se, but I interact with it on a daily basis.

H. P. Lovecraft was a wimp.

There's something eerie about a clockwork universe of perfect reason and logic no?
Happily for you, you can prove mathematically that math will never take over the universe!

edited 1st Nov '10 6:30:09 PM by Noaqiyeum

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KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
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#63: Nov 1st 2010 at 11:53:09 PM

Why would it need to take over when it already permeates the entirety of existence?

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#64: Nov 1st 2010 at 11:57:42 PM

There's something eerie about a clockwork universe of perfect reason and logic no?

What the hell is it with people and nonsensical things like this?

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#65: Nov 2nd 2010 at 12:11:56 AM

I think that you very indirectly answered your own question!

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Uchuujinsan Since: Oct, 2009
#66: Nov 4th 2010 at 5:21:42 AM

[...] and possibly other sets that I don't remember, but still not for transfinite numbers
Well, every group is by definition well defined with the operation "+", that includes every real vectorspace, including infinite dimensional ones, and sets that are isomorph to such a vectorspace (C is isomorph to R², the quaternions are ismorph to R^4 etc..)

Another example of groups (even a field) with well defined "+" would be modular arithmetic with prime numbers.

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