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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#176: Jul 13th 2010 at 8:36:50 AM

Well, Sasha deals more damage, but Natasha slows the enemies, making it harder for them to escape.

Tough call, actually.

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Magus Since: Jan, 2001
#177: Jul 13th 2010 at 9:31:43 AM

I'd go with Sasha if you want to take out multiple enemies really quickly.

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#178: Jul 13th 2010 at 1:13:00 PM

Most people will start flaming you if you use Natascha. I know this because I have a TF 2-playing brother and yeah you get the idea.

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Errick 1TS4 FOX13 :y from Warshington Since: Jan, 2001
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#179: Jul 13th 2010 at 3:16:50 PM

As a medic, I die much more often to Sasha users than Natasha users, so there's that. Sasha's best for dealing with the quicker light classes that tend to slip away before you can kill them, while Natasha's better for the slow and heavy classes that might normally take you head on anyway.

rumetzen Since: Jan, 2010
#180: Jul 13th 2010 at 3:18:23 PM

Errick, I think you're mixing up Sasha and Natscha.

edited 13th Jul '10 3:18:44 PM by rumetzen

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#181: Jul 13th 2010 at 3:41:45 PM

Really, it's a situational thing, like Wrench vs. Gunslinger. A good rule of thumb is that if most of the enemy team is light, weak classes, or if you're on point defense or something, go with Natascha, and otherwise, use Sasha.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#182: Jul 13th 2010 at 4:27:47 PM

It's probably an advantage when you can get into a big coordinated fight with the rest of your team. Since anyone who stays out into the open in those cases will be dead, Natascha can help stop your enemies from getting to cover and probably get your team a lot more kills. If you don't have that coordination though, Sasha will work better.

Mammalsauce Since: Mar, 2010
#183: Jul 13th 2010 at 6:30:07 PM

If you can aim, then use Sasha. Natascha only glues enemies to the ground so they are easier to hit. In my experience, any enemy who comes close enough to be immobilized by Natascha is 90% of the time close enough that Sasha would have torn them to ribbons before they could escape anyway. The spread and falloff on either minigun is so severe that they'll have to be either in a completely open area or near death to kill anyway.

VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#184: Jul 13th 2010 at 7:27:22 PM

But that's what I mean with that coordinated team. Slowing a person won't help your DPS much, but slowing them when you've got 4 other guys trying to kill them... in that case, by comparision, having Sasha isn't as helpful.

Errick 1TS4 FOX13 :y from Warshington Since: Jan, 2001
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#185: Jul 13th 2010 at 7:27:36 PM

Yeah probably I might have the names backwards because I have no memory.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#186: Jul 13th 2010 at 7:42:08 PM

Sasha is the basic Minigun which does more damage and is technically just called "Minigun".

Natascha is the unlockable which does less damage but slows enemies that you hit.

Errick 1TS4 FOX13 :y from Warshington Since: Jan, 2001
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#187: Jul 13th 2010 at 8:31:08 PM

EDIT: Oops, somehow I posted to the wrong thread with this.

edited 13th Jul '10 8:31:36 PM by Errick

JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
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#189: Jul 14th 2010 at 9:45:48 AM

Scripting! Who does it, and what kinda scripts do you use?

I have a few customs running for just about every class, namely:

 Scout

 Soldier

 Pyro

 Engie

 Medic

 Sniper

 Spy

And  in general,

edited 14th Jul '10 10:10:58 AM by Blackmoon

Magus Since: Jan, 2001
#190: Jul 14th 2010 at 12:44:04 PM

I'm using TF 2 on a Mac, so I'm not even sure if I can do scripts. Also I don't have any source games.

MedicoreNed Welp, Redbeard is angry Since: Feb, 2010
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#191: Jul 14th 2010 at 12:48:40 PM

^^Those scripts sound awsome, but i don't have that many buttons on my mouse, just three.

rumetzen Since: Jan, 2010
Errick 1TS4 FOX13 :y from Warshington Since: Jan, 2001
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#193: Jul 14th 2010 at 4:21:47 PM

No scripts or rebinding for me, but I've never really needed any. I do have quickswitch and auto-call for Medic on, though. Makes it easier to keep track of who's almost dead.

JackMackerel from SOME OBSCURE MEDIA Since: Jul, 2010
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Sati1984 Browncoat from Hungary Since: May, 2010
#196: Jul 15th 2010 at 2:16:04 AM

I'm running TF 2 on my ancient AMD Barton XP 2800+ with 1 GB of RAM and an Nvidia GF 6800 GTS, and ever since the engie update, my FPS decreased so much, that now if I play on maps with large, open areas, the game becomes nearly unplayable.

Is there any way to fix the FPS drop without buying a new comp? I really need your help, guys!

edited 15th Jul '10 2:16:15 AM by Sati1984

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Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#197: Jul 15th 2010 at 6:26:07 AM

First thing I'd do is cripple the video settings in-game, but that might not help too much. Worth a try.

Pablobot Just super. Since: Dec, 1969
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#198: Jul 15th 2010 at 8:11:04 AM

Sati, assuming you're launching from Steam; Go to launch options, and try putting -dxlevel 81 in the box, worked for me.

BonSequitur Has emotional range Since: Jan, 2001
Has emotional range
#199: Jul 15th 2010 at 10:29:45 AM

One thing that supposedly works is reinstalling the game. You don't need to re-download; just manually delete the game files from your Steam installation folder (Back up any custom content). When you try to start the game, Steam will restore the game files from the cache file. This might improve performance without need to degrade settings.

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Smo Brit Trash from England Since: Jul, 2010
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#200: Jul 15th 2010 at 2:46:01 PM

My gfx card fried while playing this game :(.

Haven't got the £s for a new one. But one day, I'll get it back, because TF 2 is the best FPS ever

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