By popular demand. And because seriously, what the FUCK.
Advanced construction based on metals rather than concrete.
The geofront must count as a marvel of engineering by the sheer fact that there’s an entire modern city in seismic Japan that is able to forego the need of a floor to sustain it.
Another I could think of might be further progress in ordnance since the N2 bombs are specified to not be nukes yet have the same power capability as one.
There are also significant biological advances in cloning and DNA manipulation since Rei and Kaworu are a thing and arguably we can also incorporate biocomputers depending on the specifics of the Dummy Plug system.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.Well, technically the bulk of the GeoFront is an already-existing structure of alien origin — the Black Moon. The marvel is instead the fact that Gehirn and Nerv were able to penetrate the incredibly thick shell of an object that has survived collision with Earth in the First Impact 4.6 billion plus years ago (an event that is one of several candidates for the creation of Luna
) evidently survived every destructive geological event that had afflicted the area of the Japanese archipelago since then, and then install all sorts of passages and machinery for both transportation from and to the surface on the one hand and moving the above-surface structures to the subterranean cavity.
As for N2 bombs, the sheer destructiveness, lack of appreciable radioactive fallout, and the EMP generated on at least one occasion make the most likely possibility for their nature being that they use pure fusion warheads, so we can add that (and possibly fusion power, which is definitely a thing in the Anima continuity in the form of N2 reactors
that are small enough to be installed in Eva-sized giant robots
).
Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 11th 2021 at 10:10:32 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I'd say the obvious Brain–Computer Interface, but on second thought I can't actually tell whether the neural signals are translated by the computers into the Eva's format, or whether the communication is directly pilot-to-Eva with the computer only tapping into the link from the side to monitor and flow-control the traffic.
And the other obvious of what the Evas' armor is made of that doesn't sink into the ground under its own weight. I once proposed a top layer of explosive reactive armor, underneath which are multiple layers of ceramic composite armor to save weight, but there's no way to know.
AFAIK the interface headset is a required element of synchronization with an Evangelion, as we never see it happen without the pilot wearing one. So we can check "non-invasive Brain–Computer Interface" on the list... although the technology is already being commercialized as we speak
, so it's not as far off as many people would think.
Is it just me, or is the page on Yui in the OG series a bit mean spirited? Like, it's clearly written in mind with the "Yui is evil" theory, which while a popular theory, is not in my opinion reflective of what the show presents. Which is basically, that Yui is super good.
Edited by Bornstellar on Sep 13th 2021 at 8:11:19 AM
Yui is a grey character all things considered.
There's stuff to make it look like she was a good person but there's also enough to know that she was also a shady one. I'm not sure if it's canon but apparently Yui is the one who introduced Gendo to SEELE since she was a relative of one of its members.
And aside from that, it's strange that in EoE Eva 01 only moves when Asuka is confirmed to be dead.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.I can think of several ways to explain all of the mysteries surroundig Yui's agenda and actions in ways that paint her as a good person who had the misfortune of being put in circumstances that denied her any morally clean way of achieving all of her top priorities (namely saving humanity and protecting Shinji), without actually contradicting canon. That's how big of a gap Anno has left for people to interpret however they wish. The main problem isn't how canon-compliant the explanations are, but rather that many people are so emotionally invested in their initial negative impression of Yui's character based on their personal interpretations of the available canon info that they refuse to accept the possibility of a positive interpretation being more plausible than their negative interpretation, driving them to dig in their heels and do a lot of mental gymnastics to come up with a "solid" rebuttal.
Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 14th 2021 at 12:42:06 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Say, how would you guys rate the Magi AIs? The more I think about it, the more the Magi seem quite "dumb" in comparison to, say, Mass Effect's Virtual Intelligences, which at least were able to and routinely held basic conversations with people despite not any trace of sapience, sentience, cognition, consciousness, etc. They come across as just futuristic supercomputers whose software is sophisticated and "intelligent" enough to analyze data input and suggest courses of action, but whose "speech" strictly consists of pre-canned recordings and is limited to base-wide public announcements (e.g. when the self-destruct sequence was initiated via Ireul's hacking) — essentially a glorified expert system.
Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 16th 2021 at 5:07:00 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I'm not sure how I would rate the MAGI, but I did have a different thought about the technology used in the series versus what was available in real-life 2015. In episode 11, when the pilots couldn't get into NERV because of the blackout, I thought that this was one of those situations where having cell phones could have helped. Unless the blackout would have affected cell phone communications (since it was city-wide and not just in a single building), I thought that they could have called NERV to have someone open a door manually from the inside, rather than needing to climb through the vents. This was something I thought of because I thought about how when the show was created, it was intended to seem futuristic, but its 2015 setting is now in the past. (And then there's the often-mentioned aspect of Shinji using an outdated SDAT player, although sometimes people like using older technologies for things and that's not something that would have affected a plot point like the lack of cellphones)
Of course, the Second Impact could have impacted technological development in a way that meant that cell phones didn't develop like they did in real life and that the technological drive went into other sectors, such as developing the underground base and the Evas. It was just something I thought of when considering the year the story is set in.
Edit: I just looked it up and a city-wide blackout probably would affect cellphone communications, so that particular plot point probably wouldn't have been affected by whether or not they had real-life 2015 cellphones.
Edited by Rainbow on Sep 16th 2021 at 9:34:51 AM
Family is from a town in the mountains along a river at the bottom of a basin. Not quite a fully enclosed basin, the river goes through the area, more like a valley. The point though is that all of the cell phone companies and TV companies have their towers for town on top of one of the mountains to the side in a single shared location. Family lives near the river and gets okay signal, but occasionally it craps out if the weather wills it.
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Why? To be able to consistently string coherent responses to a very diverse range of possible verbal or text inputs from people such that the computer can be mistaken for a real person under the right circumstances strikes me as the mark of signficantly high level of machine intelligence, at least by modern standards.
You know, maybe we should first establish how far the power grid of Tokyo-3 extends past the city proper, because if it includes the outlaying hills, then it means even the telecommunications towers on those would be shut down, and thus all mobile phones within the city limits would be useless for communication anyway.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Got past The Birth of Nerv in my rewatch. Would it be possible Yui met Gendo before, if not during the incident that landed the latter in jail due to how Gendo claimed he heard of Fuyutsuki from a "certain person"?
Now, as to why I believe the incident that landed Gendo in jail being where he met Yui, I attribute that to be why Yui spoke positively about him to Fuyutsuki in that someone probably tried to take advantage of Yui and that Gendo didn't ignore it, leading to a fight that got him into jail.
Edited by HallowHawk on Sep 17th 2021 at 7:51:10 PM
On a different note, I'm increasingly leaning towards considering all the examples of human-made positron weapons in NGE to be a solid case of Photoprotoneutron Torpedo that is firmly driven by Rule of Cool and little to no comprehension of the ramifications entailed in humanity managing to weaponize antimatter like that. As in, if the Japanese military can have a huge cannon that fire a mass of positrons and not have it prematurely expend itself in collisions with atmospheric particles (implying it's sheathed in a bubble of same-charged plasma), then logically the same tech can be used to build antimatter reactors to generate massive amounts of electricity instead of nuclear reactors like, say, the one used by Jet Alone. And why stop there? Making antimatter bombs wouldn't be a huge step from that.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Not when you consider that space is at a high premium when designing a portable weapon firing projectiles made of antiparticles. It would be one thing if it was a "static" superweapon like the Stonehenge railgun system from Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies; you'd have a lot more leeway in space for building systems for both generating and containing the antiparticles, as well as any infrasturcture for providing the necessary power supply for the aforementioned, venting for any buildup of excess heat or waste byproducts, etc.
And for a real-life comparison, several nuclear reactors were built before the first nuclear bomb was constructed; although they were used to produce weapons-grade plutonium for the nuclear weapons program rather than producing power, it still shows that nuclear reactors were easier to make than nuclear weapons. I don't see why the same couldn't be said for antimatter reactors and weapons.
Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 19th 2021 at 4:35:56 PM
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Which is exactly why I once asked over at the Worldbuilding subforum whether it's possible that the weapon doesn't fire antimatter, it fires the reaction products of matter/antimatter annihilation, conceptually similar to the nuke-powered X-ray lasers of Project Excalibur
.
I got told that the radiation would spread out far too quickly to have useful range as a weapon.
Well, in the absence of any compelling counter-arguments, I propose my headcanon that ties in with this headcanon
for giving N2 technologies a new, neither silly nor bland meaning for its acronymnote and the Minovsky Physics treatmentnote . Instead of weapons firing positrons or any kind of antiparticle, the JSSDF and Nerv developed weapons that fire projectiles of N2 particles.
Actually, it's that particular part of Gundam lore that, in hindsight, made me scratch my head as a bit too convoluted: the particle that allows for miniaturization of power sources and elimination of BVR warfare also being an energy weapon payload.
Feels like too many eggs in one basket and unlike the AT-field, it doesn't even have the excuse of being sufficiently advanced.
Edited by amitakartok on Sep 24th 2021 at 8:34:45 PM
You would think that, but it seems to follow logically from the few physical properties that are explicitly ascribed to it
, sometimes retroactively by fans who were trying to fill in gaps in the setting, rather than people from intside Sunrise (their work had been eventually made official lore by Sunrise, and many of those fans ended up being recruited as Sunrise employees themselves).

I'm trying to figure out what IRL emerging
and hypothetical technologies
have been realized in NGE and Rebuild. Can you guys help me? So far my list consists of the following:
- Directed-energy weapons
: Nerv's Polysome defense system uses laser weapons, and then there's the antimatter weapons in the form of the Evas' positron weapons.
- Mecha
: Evangelions, Jet Alone, Jet Alone Kai
, T-RIDEN-T, etc.
- Mind uploading
: The Magi supercomputer system's tripartite AI were created using a mind upload of Naoko.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.