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By popular demand. And because seriously, what the FUCK.

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10426: Feb 11th 2021 at 10:47:11 AM

That's unnecessarily pessimistic.

Still true, though.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#10427: Feb 11th 2021 at 3:54:41 PM

On what grounds? You claim impossibility of them getting better without explaining why and with a patent absence of any strong evidence of such in canon material.

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10428: Feb 12th 2021 at 4:11:22 AM

Hard to think any differently when the fandom blatantly treats the franchise as suffering porn.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#10429: Feb 12th 2021 at 6:31:33 AM

Didn’t we just mention two fics devoted to fix the suffering one way or another?

Yes, the story of Eva is mixed with suffering but it’s not just that.

Edited by raziel365 on Feb 12th 2021 at 6:32:48 AM

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#10430: Feb 16th 2021 at 10:18:30 AM

Evangelion 3.0+1.0: Thrice Upon A Time was initially listed with a running time of 154 minutes and a G rating from Japan's Film Classification and Rating Organization.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10431: Mar 27th 2021 at 3:51:07 AM

Online Hate Took Evangelion Creator Hideaki Anno To A Dark Place

    The article 

Hideaki Anno, the creator of Evangelion, is an anime icon. He says he’s done with the series. With its fame and popularity came haters, who took him to a very dark place.

At one point, twisted online comments made Anno contemplate dying by suicide.

In a recently aired NHK program, Anno opened up to film crews for a frank and honest interview. The name of the program is Professional: Shigoto no Ryuugi (Professional: The Way of Work), and the show followed him over a four-year period as he finished the latest Evangelion. “Professional” is a word that Anno told NHK he didn’t like and wished had been changed in a humorous exchange during the closing credits.

The program showed the ups and downs of the creative process, and how Anno would go back to fix the script late in production. This would then, of course, impact the release schedule.

During the show, he was very clear about how he felt about Evangelion. “With this [movie], I’m done with Eva,” he said. Of course, that doesn’t mean Evangelion will necessarily stop, but as of now it appears Anno won’t be doing it and is moving on. He seems more than ready, too. When NHK asked if he had any emotional attachment to Eva, he immediately replied, “None.”

In another segment, Anno opened up about how he felt after reading an online thread in which commenters discussed how to kill him. The incident occurred when Evangelion was airing on TV over twenty years ago.

Anno has battled depression for years—a battle that he has been open about. It’s rare to see this kind of frankness in Japan about mental health. The topic, as Japan Today points out, has long been taboo. That is beginning to change.

“For me, I’m trying to work hard for society and people who love anime, but there was this thread on how to kill Hideaki Anno,” the anime creator told NHK. “They kept writing the absolute best ways to kill me, such as, I could be killed this way or that. When I saw this, I stopped caring about everything—like, making anime. I’d had enough. One time, I thought about jumping in front of a car. Another time, I thought about jumping from the company’s roof.” NHK asked what stopped him, and Anno replied, “Because that seemed painful. Dying is fine, really, but I didn’t like the idea of experiencing pain before death.”

It’s so easy to make flippant comments online. Those words, however, have meaning. And that meaning can impact people in a deep and profound way.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#10432: Mar 27th 2021 at 6:27:16 AM

[up] Wow, poor guy. This and Ahmed Best prove that online fandom has been twisted for a looooooong time.

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10433: Mar 27th 2021 at 6:42:06 AM

It's not just the fandom. He wanted to put Eva behind him, but was growing afraid of peer pressure and popular demand pigeonholing him into making nothing but Eva.

It eventually got to the point where by December 2012, he stopped going into the studio and was contemplating suicide by train.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#10434: Mar 27th 2021 at 6:48:59 AM

I hope he can keep his promise to be done this time. I’ve also heard that Rebuild, seemingly against all odds, has a pretty upbeat ending; I hope that helped too.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Mar 27th 2021 at 8:52:53 AM

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10435: Mar 27th 2021 at 6:58:14 AM

[up]It does have a happy ending, but somewhat controversial because some fans believe Anno evidently using the movie as closure for himself affected the plot for worse, not for the better.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#10436: Mar 27th 2021 at 7:00:26 AM

[up] I don’t see why that criticism matters if it means getting over real life suicidal depression IMO. tongue

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#10437: Mar 27th 2021 at 8:05:21 AM

And the series has been a reflection of Annos mind since his post Nadia depression, so I don't know what people were expecting for Rebuilds ending.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Mar 27th 2021 at 11:05:47 AM

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10438: Mar 27th 2021 at 8:34:53 AM

They wanted to see the end of Shinji's story, not Anno's, but Anno apparently went full self-insert with Shinji this time, to the point where the movie literally portrays a world without Eva as drone footage of Anno's real-life hometown.

It's not the tone of the ending people are having trouble with, it's that it feels jarring and out-of-place, both for Eva and for Shinji. And that's not even counting the shipper outrage over Shinji having moved on with his life.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#10439: Mar 27th 2021 at 8:47:54 AM

Not really seeing how its not the end of Shinji's story. Its literally just an homage to ending of the first Xenoblade, but somewhat more meta. Nothing wrong with that.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#10440: Mar 27th 2021 at 9:30:35 AM

A lot of reviews do point out it ends up being more Anno than Shinji as a character at the end. The fact that the character he gets with is someone who isn’t developed like the rest gets pointed out as a negative even in glowing reviews with that + the action being lifeless.

Whereas before Shinji and everyone in Eva represented him and his issues + some characters taking inspiration from people he knows. By the end it’s just Anno wearing a Shinji suit being with his wife.

This is even reflected in how divorce Mari is from Eva, even when she’s implemented into the story past with certain characters. She’s not written to fit in with anything else in Eva due to who she’s based on(+Kaworu), despite Anno being completely willing to do so with everyone else he knows.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 27th 2021 at 10:09:45 AM

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gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
Musician/Composer
#10441: Mar 28th 2021 at 2:18:25 PM

I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but Amanda Winn-Lee has posted her thoughts on the Netflix release on her Twitter account here.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#10442: Mar 28th 2021 at 2:21:18 PM

Yeah she even compliments the new cast for doing a giod job with what they were given.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#10443: Mar 28th 2021 at 2:34:24 PM

Suffice to say, online fandom and parasocial relationships can be toxic...I might had contributed to that myself when I was a younger man.

"Fan, a Mega Man character."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#10444: Mar 28th 2021 at 6:02:42 PM

Okay what she reveals is pretty fucking insane.

Holy Shit! I just realized the NDA we sign for the @Netflix Evangelion has expired!! I've been waiting for 2 years to say this: You know the crappy, awful script they used? They tried to make us use that EXACT SAME script 25 years ago. Matt stood up to them and told them (1)

that the script was ridiculous and too step off, we're using a script that actually makes sense. If only Netflix had had the balls to do that, I think the performances of the new crew would have been even more stellar.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#10445: Mar 28th 2021 at 7:53:37 PM

I like the new cast, but the actual script is too literal and thus often has less emotional impact or makes no sense.

JakesBrain Since: Jul, 2010
#10446: Mar 28th 2021 at 8:17:38 PM

You're not going to change Studio Khara's mind about that anymore; they're paranoid about the localizers changing too much. I guess it's a phobia they picked up working with Funimation circa Rebuild 3.0.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#10447: Mar 28th 2021 at 10:44:22 PM

Yup. There was definitely no way it was going to end with Khara relenting like they did years ago cause of the brand

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10448: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:36:25 PM

So, back in October, Marq mentioned an Evangelion game with a new Eva pilot in it. Do you guys believe she belongs in the extracanonical section? I mean, there are no Rebuild characters listed there, but one of the other characters there is already from a non-series continuity.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#10449: Mar 29th 2021 at 2:19:57 PM

Specifically it’s Evangelion Battlefields, which was supposed to release at the same time as 3.0+1.0 till the movie release was changed.

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#10450: Mar 29th 2021 at 5:58:42 PM

I'm aware. What I've been able to piece together based on Youtube videos (I know there's a wiki entry but I haven't checked it out since October) is that it technically takes place in the Rebuild continuity, but each season is a separate story unconnected to the previous ones. Hence why Kotone is a newcomer in both season 2 which takes place in the school setting timeframe, as well as in season 3 which is Q-era.

I don't know if she appears in further seasons because the guy who uploaded the cutscenes I saw claimed that seasons 4 and 5 didn't get CGI cutscenes like the prior ones.


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