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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#4376: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:23:50 PM

[up][up][up][up] Someone really doesn't like Rei. I mean, I don't really care much for Asuka, but I can at least see her appeal.

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#4377: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:24:28 PM

[up][up] Did I mention how I find Rei's pink blush extremely adorable?

edited 4th Apr '12 12:24:36 PM by MarqFJA

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Fluid Since: Jan, 2001
#4378: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:25:24 PM

That third face up from the bottom-left makes me laugh.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#4379: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:27:40 PM

[up][up] You and me both. Then again, I just find Rei overall to be cute.

I just find the whole story of an artificial being who starts emotionless and may indeed be something of a monster slowly regaining her humanity, and learning how to love and care for someone a really touching story. Rei also brings up some pretty interesting thoughts about clones and the like. If an artificial being can ultimately learn to love and care for others, and indeed become her own person, who are we to judge clones as nothing more than expendable?

edited 4th Apr '12 12:27:49 PM by LDragon2

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#4380: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:31:30 PM

[up] More to the point: Her first real interaction with Shinji (namely, at the end of Episode 6) makes it clear that she's really confused about how to properly behave or express herself outside of her limited interactions with Gendo, and knows that, but is just as confused about how to fix it. See how easily she smiles once Shinji suggested it to her!

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Enthryn (they/them) Since: Nov, 2010
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#4381: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:46:26 PM

Is there any evidence that Rei's unnatural-seeming behavior is at all due to her genetics? I thought it's purely a result of her upbringing, but I've heard occasional speculation that it's related to her Angel DNA or something. Doesn't make sense to me.

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#4382: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:48:18 PM

Why must all emotions be romantic? I don't like Shinji x Rei as a paring, but that is not to say I don't like the characters' growing due to the other. It's fine so long as it isn't romantic. If it is, it's just squick.

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#4383: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:49:20 PM

By canon, she was made from the salvaged remains of Yui's body post-Contact Experiment.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that means she is a clone of Shinji's mom.

She's a bitch? In what way?

See how she treated Shinji for not liking his dad. That is not counting how cold she acts towards others in general when not being emotionless.

edited 4th Apr '12 12:49:43 PM by Chariot

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#4384: Apr 4th 2012 at 12:52:17 PM

[up] Are you being deliberately obtuse? Everyone in the last few posts has pretty much put paid to both the "full clone of Yui" and "emotionless" arguments. The manga sinks the "Rei has no emotions" argument even more completely than the anime did. Rei's reaction to Shinji not liking Gendo (I assume you're talking about the slap) is completely understandable at that point; Gendo's pretty much a father figure to her...she barely knows Shinji and the undermining of Gendo in her eyes hasn't even begun.

edited 4th Apr '12 12:55:22 PM by Willbyr

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#4385: Apr 4th 2012 at 1:46:05 PM

Yes, at that point in time, Gendo is pretty much her god. As for how coldly she treats others... well for one, it took her a while just to start developing a proper range of emotions for dealing with Shinji, much less anyone else, and, oh yeah, SHE WAS RAISED BY GENDO IKARI. GENDO. FUCKING. IKARI.

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#4386: Apr 4th 2012 at 1:48:57 PM

[up][up][up] You know, I'm not even going to dignify you with a response beyond this.

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#4387: Apr 4th 2012 at 1:56:16 PM

And really, who gives a fuck about incest? Sure it's... kind of creepy between siblings raised together, but unless everyone's doing it (like if there existed a society or a family line that required inbreeding), there's not really going to be any health problems in the children, and if it makes you happy, it makes you happy. Doubly so for siblings and cousins not raised together or aware of each other, because then the main problem with incest (the rather squicky, emotional part), is no longer a factor.

You will notice that none of that applies to Rei. Neither does the actual genetic relation part, even. They're barely related genetically. Even assuming she has a majority of Yui's DNA, she's still not identical to her, she still didn't give birth to Shinji, nor was she from the same womb, even. She's her own frigging person, with her own past, personality, and identity.

I will only object to incest between parents and children. That... that is downright nasty, and usually an abuse of parental power, and just of children in general. At the very least, it's a sign of improper parenting. Like Gendo. Fuck you Gendo.

edited 4th Apr '12 1:58:54 PM by KSPAM

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#4388: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:04:24 PM

[up]x2

Because disagreeing with you automatically means I'm a troll.

[up]

She's a clone of his mom. That's fucked up.

edited 4th Apr '12 2:05:19 PM by Chariot

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#4389: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:08:45 PM

[up] No, but blatantly ignoring canon facts to suit your agenda makes me seriously consider that you might be doing this just to get a rise out of us.

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#4390: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:11:30 PM

Except for the part where I never did ignore canon facts. Seems to me like you need to pay more attention to things.

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#4391: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:20:09 PM

[up] You didn't even adress any points.

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#4392: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:20:39 PM

[up][up] She's not a clone of his mom, she has bits and pieces of her DNA. If anything, like we've said, she's closer to being a sister or a cousin genetically speaking than she is his mom.

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#4393: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:24:05 PM

She was made from salvaged remains, how does that not make her a clone? Honestly there's no evidence either way so it's perfectly logical to consider her a clone.

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#4394: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:26:44 PM

And what about her being a bitch? Or her being emotionless?

edited 4th Apr '12 2:28:16 PM by kay4today

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#4395: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:31:34 PM

[up][up] You do realize that's like saying a walking stick you made out wood from a fallen tree you salvaged is also a tree, right? It's not a tree, it's walking stick. Just because one was made from the other does not stop them from being two distinct, separate things.

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#4396: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:31:56 PM

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Her being a bitch is entirely subjective and something that can't be proved or disproved. As for being emotionless she almost never shows any emotion which is enough for her to qualify.

[up]

Right. Ignore the fact that I outright said we didn't know one way or the other and that her being a clone is just as valid as her not being one.

edited 4th Apr '12 2:33:33 PM by Chariot

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#4397: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:35:05 PM

[up] Then why are you raising a fuss if there's no telling or not?

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#4398: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:37:07 PM

Because people keep saying I'm wrong for believing that she is one.

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#4399: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:40:00 PM

@Chariot

Quoting Marq:

She is not emotionless. She is either emotionally repressed or has extreme difficulty identifying and/or expressing her own emotions, most likely due to being Raised by Gendou Ikari.

I agree with him. She blushes, she cries and she gets angry. So, not emotionless.

Cool, then I'm just gonna say that Shinji was acting like a bitch in that situation as well. How dare he belittle Gendo like that?! tongue

edited 4th Apr '12 2:40:37 PM by kay4today

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#4400: Apr 4th 2012 at 2:41:20 PM

If there's no way to know, then why is there a problem? Who cares? Besides, Rei is Rei. Yui is Yui. Your argument may have been valid had Yui traveled into the future and engaged in wild animal sex with her son, but this is not Yui. This is Rei. She is a different person, even if she is genetically similar. She is entitled to her own unique emotions and rights and should not be judged or viewed based on where she came from or what she is. Because you know what doing that's called? Prejudice. It's weird to say this, but I'm going to say it.

It's prejudice, and you, good sir, are being intolerant towards half-human alien clones tongue

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