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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4351: Apr 4th 2012 at 5:57:57 AM

Ökay, tell me of one normally-adjusted male who could handle Asuka? Even more difficult: one who is also a pilot (let's assume they are not selected for angst).

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#4352: Apr 4th 2012 at 6:23:54 AM

[up] What you are suggesting doesn't exist tongue

All of the above I agree with. Asuka doesn't treat him well enough to deserve any kind of love or affection from him. If anything, she was one of the biggest factors in his total break down. I was actually cheering when Shinji choked her in Instrumentality. That's what you get for messing with him, bitch! That's what you get!

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#4353: Apr 4th 2012 at 6:29:36 AM

[up]

Asuka was the last straw. He went to her because he had no one else, and expected to be showered with love and affection. He didn't take her rejecting him very well.

Otherwise, though, she seemed to inspire confidence and inspiration in him.

edited 4th Apr '12 6:46:09 AM by SilentColossus

ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
#4354: Apr 4th 2012 at 7:13:00 AM

Okay, what? How was Asuka one of the biggest factors in his total breakdown? There were ALOT of factors to it and most of them were Shinji's own problems. When did this "rejection" thing happen? The last time he saw Asuka before his breakdown, she was in a coma. Actually, the thing stated above actually fits Kaworu more than it does Asuka.

The thing is, Asuka would be nicer to Shinji if she wasn't so messed up. There is absolutely no way their relationship would work on either side until they manage to fix their own issues.

We actually kind of see that in alternate universes. Asuka's still a major jerk Tsundere, but she and Shinji are very clearly friends and are nice to each other more frequently.

edited 4th Apr '12 10:02:35 AM by ManwiththePlan

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#4355: Apr 4th 2012 at 7:37:04 AM

I don't ship Shinji with anyone but if I did it would be Asuka because:

  • Unlike Rei she is human and she is not related to him.
  • They'd both benefit from it in that Asuka would cause him to toughen up while Shinji would help her to become somewhat kinder even if she was still a bitch.
  • She actually has emotions.

edited 4th Apr '12 7:37:57 AM by Chariot

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#4356: Apr 4th 2012 at 8:23:50 AM

I'd just say shinji should get all the central females that show him some kind of twisted affection, but that's me and Marq's opinions. waii

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#4358: Apr 4th 2012 at 8:37:46 AM

I said Rei, too. Shinji X Rei X Asuka X Misato waii

edited 4th Apr '12 8:38:02 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#4359: Apr 4th 2012 at 8:38:17 AM

Asuka x Kaworu would be hilarious.

There's really only one reason against Rei x Shinji for me. She's a clone of his mother and Lilith. She's still an abnormal human and she does have emotions. And I think they'd both benefit from it as well. Shinji wouldn't be that much of a wuss if no one constantly belittled him IMO.

He just needs some love. cool

edited 4th Apr '12 8:39:00 AM by kay4today

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#4360: Apr 4th 2012 at 8:59:13 AM

I could see Shinji and Auska being in mutually beneficial relationship, and not necessarily a romantic one (although I do like the idea of it), if they, as many others have said, worked out their psychological issues.

Auska could help by pushing Shinji out of his comfort zone, and aspire him to take more chances than he ever would by himself.

Shinji, on the other hand, could help Asuka with keeping her feet on the ground and work as a buffer for her more rough edges.

Their very similar backgrounds also means that they are each other's best bet for someone to understand their pain.

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#4361: Apr 4th 2012 at 9:13:32 AM

There's really only one reason against Rei x Shinji for me. She's a clone of his mother and Lilith.

I wonder if it would be correct for Shinji to address her as "mom".

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#4362: Apr 4th 2012 at 9:15:41 AM

Pah! Oedipus was just a prude. cool

ManwiththePlan Since: Dec, 2009
#4363: Apr 4th 2012 at 9:48:29 AM

She actually has emotions

Rei has emotions too, remember? She just can't express them properly due to how she was made with the Extreme Doormat nature that she has.

Asuka x Kaworu would be hilarious.

I've thought of that one myself, considering that they're my two favorite characters in the franchise.

Shinji wouldn't be that much of a wuss if no one constantly belittled him IMO

Ah, but he wouldn't toughen up if no one challenged him, either. So he needs Asuka and Rei in his life.

edited 4th Apr '12 9:59:13 AM by ManwiththePlan

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#4364: Apr 4th 2012 at 10:02:25 AM

@Hamburger Time

Nope. Especially ones like Rei.

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#4365: Apr 4th 2012 at 10:03:59 AM

[up] Regardless of what Rei deserves or not, she needed some love, right?

kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#4366: Apr 4th 2012 at 10:32:57 AM

Asuka would be okay. As a friend. tongue

I wonder what's so horrible about Rei that she doesn't deserve anything.

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#4367: Apr 4th 2012 at 10:35:09 AM

Apparently, genes. Something she can't even help.

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Enthryn (they/them) Since: Nov, 2010
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#4368: Apr 4th 2012 at 10:52:57 AM

This shouldn't even need to be pointed out, but Rei isn't Shinji's mother. She's genetically his half-sister or cousin, depending on how much of Yui's genetic material she has.

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#4369: Apr 4th 2012 at 11:00:43 AM

[up] Maybe even less; technically speaking, all she strictly needs to look the way she is are the genes that govern Yui's general appearance, excluding the hair and eye color genes (Rei has blue hair and red eyes, so she didn't get those from Yui), which AFAIK form a small fraction of the entire human genome.

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#4370: Apr 4th 2012 at 11:03:32 AM

And honestly, is it really such a big deal even if Shinji and Rei's relationship would technically be incestuous? They didn't grow up together, and there's a rather small pool of people who have shared their experiences of being EVA pilots. If it would make them happy and less inclined to turn everyone into orange juice, I don't have any argument against it.

I still won't argue for or against any pairings, though, just as a matter of principle. At most I'll acknowledge the possibility and consider how it might play out. So while I think certain objections to Shinji/Rei are silly, that doesn't mean I would necessarily like to see it happen in canon.

edited 4th Apr '12 11:03:49 AM by Enthryn

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4371: Apr 4th 2012 at 11:32:44 AM

Asuka x Kaworu would be hilarious.

I've thought of that one myself, considering that they're my two favorite characters in the franchise.

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#4372: Apr 4th 2012 at 11:45:43 AM

I wonder what's so horrible about Rei that she doesn't deserve anything.

  • She is an emotionless monster.
  • She is a bitch and not a likable one such as Asuka.
  • She is a clone of her love interest's mom making any relationship between them incest.

And those are only the slightly obvious reasons.

edited 4th Apr '12 11:49:12 AM by Chariot

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#4373: Apr 4th 2012 at 11:56:56 AM

She is not emotionless. She is either emotionally repressed or has extreme difficulty identifying and/or expressing her own emotions, most likely due to being Raised by Gendou Ikari.

She is only a "monster" in biological terms of "Artificial Half-Human Hybrid whose human part was crossed with a Eldritch Abomination-like Starfish Alien genome", making her technically a Humanoid Abomination whose behavior is nevertheless very much human (even her emotional repression is believable, given her circumstances).

She is not a bitch. See my first point.

She is not Yui Ikari's clone. Strictly speaking, a true clone would have to be completely identical to her in genetic composition, and yet Rei has marked physical differences — blue hair, red eyes, even her skin is unusually paler than other characters. By canon, she was made from the salvaged remains of Yui's body post-Contact Experiment. See this post, also.

edited 4th Apr '12 11:59:42 AM by MarqFJA

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Muphrid Relativistic physicist from Constellation Bootes Since: May, 2010
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#4374: Apr 4th 2012 at 11:56:58 AM

[up][up] Emotionless? I take issue with that. She blushes, she cries, she smiles.

A monster? This is...strictly true, I suppose. There is something inherently alien about her, but I don't see how that makes her undeserving of something good.

She's a bitch? In what way?

Edit: actually, just not going to argue the point about incest at all.

edited 4th Apr '12 11:58:14 AM by Muphrid

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