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pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#3851: Jun 22nd 2012 at 1:31:33 PM

A streaming of the new Gojira album. I am monstrously excited, for I am seeing them live on Monday.

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.
YonTroper Since: Aug, 2009
#3852: Jun 23rd 2012 at 4:02:16 AM

So, Geoff Tate is out of Queensryche.

ABOUT. FUCKING. TIME.

...Oh, wait, anything they release with Todd LaTorre is inevitably going to suck. Either way, it's not going to turn out well.

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#3853: Jun 23rd 2012 at 4:20:45 AM

I thought Geoff Tate WAS Queensryche.

</casual Queensryche fan>

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.
YonTroper Since: Aug, 2009
#3854: Jun 23rd 2012 at 5:42:06 AM

[up] Well, that's what he'd like you to think, but back in the old days (when they actually released good stuff) it was Chris DeGarmo who did a lot of the songwriting. He left in 1997, and ever since then, Tate's been puttering around aimlessly, plopping out unbelievably bad albums (which have utterly marginalised the actual members, all of whom are originals, in favour of outside songwriters) to a rapidly shrinking fanbase, and acting like an irredeemable douche in interviews. The other three members formed a new band called Rising West with Todd LaTorre on lead vocals to play stuff from the old albums, and a couple of days ago they kicked Geoff out and Rising West effectively became the "new" Queensryche. Let's just hope it's not the butthurt-Mike-Portnoy episode of 2012...

AsTheAnointed Since: Jan, 2010
#3855: Jun 23rd 2012 at 12:12:26 PM

Geoff Tate pretty much is Queensryche for me, since I'm not a QR fan and just listen to their early stuff because his vocals on that material are great. That said his voice is completely and utterly wasted in this day and age and as far as songwriting Yon Troper is correct. QR's last album was shockingly bad.

YonTroper Since: Aug, 2009
#3856: Jun 23rd 2012 at 4:22:50 PM

[up] Are you addicted to the wi-fi way, As the Anointed? Do you have forty-six apps to keep you happy? Are you abusing all the pictures on YouTube? Have you got those sunglasses on?

Yeah. That. And here we thought the worst they could do was American Soldier...

AsTheAnointed Since: Jan, 2010
#3857: Jun 24th 2012 at 3:52:31 AM

ON YOOOOOH-TOOOOOOOOOOBE, ON YOOOOOOOOOOOH-TOOOOOOOOOOBE

edited 24th Jun '12 3:52:39 AM by AsTheAnointed

StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3858: Jun 24th 2012 at 1:46:18 PM

I've never really bothered with Queensryche after their debut personally. Hell I found Operation Mindcrime cool in idea, just not so much in execution. They should've quit while they still were ahead and all of their major contributions have already been made. Some things should be put to rest already.

Speaking of progressive metal, I've been really liking Archetype lately. They sound like classic Fates Warning but updated for the modern day, with technical and structural add-on's that IMO make them miles ahead of the crowd in terms of how compositionally advanced it all is.

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DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#3859: Jun 25th 2012 at 3:24:28 PM

As silly as this may sound, the only material I can say I really "love" from Queensrÿche is... their first "album" (more of an EP, really). Very Iron Maiden-esque (to the point that I thought it really was Maiden when I saw the Queen of the Reich video for the first time!), but very good nonetheless.

For example:

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#3860: Jun 26th 2012 at 6:18:25 AM

Gojira were face-meltingly good in Sheffield last night. Great atmosphere and the band were clearly enjoying themselves. Well worth the neck and shoulder pain I am currently experiencing tongue

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.
StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3861: Jun 27th 2012 at 4:00:24 PM

Yeah, that EP of theirs was fucking awesome, kind of wish they stuck to that straightforward metal sound at times. Their debut is really neat though, although it seems to have mellowed out a bit.

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DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#3862: Jun 30th 2012 at 6:00:33 PM

Anyone else kinda wish Fear Factory had stuck to their original sound instead of veering off into experimentation/stagnation? Case in point:

StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3863: Jul 1st 2012 at 8:28:11 PM

Honestly with a sound like that, stagnation is all I can really see coming out of it.

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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#3864: Jul 23rd 2012 at 1:35:47 PM

(Post unlated to above discussion)

Over the past year or so I've become a casual fan of some heavy metal*

, and I feel kind weird being in that position because metal has such an intense, devoted and vocal fanbase that it feels almost like an all or nothing kind of deal, like you are either a metalhead or you don't listen to metal at all. I know that's not actually the case, but it feels that way, probably because the casual fans aren't very vocal. So, are there any casual fans like around here?

StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3865: Jul 23rd 2012 at 9:43:17 PM

Am I the only one noticing that black and death metal are trying to increasingly sound like one another without actually being one another? For example, Venenum (Germany) and Imprecation for the death metal side of things while black gets Morgirion and Demoncy.

edited 23rd Jul '12 9:45:33 PM by StillbirthMachine

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AsTheAnointed Since: Jan, 2010
#3866: Jul 24th 2012 at 2:28:40 AM

[up][up]Er, I consider myself a casual metal fan, or at least a casual fan of non-prog metal (anything with the 'prog' tag is my main schtick as a music listener), though since I used to be pretty into it I know/listen to a lot of bands that you'd normally need to be pretty into metal to listen to.

pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#3867: Jul 26th 2012 at 12:01:47 PM

Gentlemen, I am currently on a Mastodon kick and have decided I need more sludge metal. Recommendations, if you please?

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#3868: Jul 26th 2012 at 7:55:47 PM

[up] [awesome] I got Call of the Mastodon, Remission, and The Hunter today.

Rgriff from Ukraine Since: Feb, 2012
#3869: Jul 27th 2012 at 1:40:31 PM

[up][up]Grief, Crowbar, Acid Bath One Two, Iron Monkey,Buzzov•en. Good sludge. Grief and Acid Bath is my personal favourites

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#3870: Jul 27th 2012 at 3:32:32 PM

Dj Bj: I'm not really all that hardcore about it either. I'm not that heavy either, so I guess it sort of goes with the territory. I like a lot of the softer/clearer metals, and sometimes delve deeper, but I enjoy a very wide range of music, so sticking to one genre devotedly isn't really in my nature.

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#3871: Aug 6th 2012 at 9:00:43 AM

By the power of Black Sabbath, I command thee, thread, Live!

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StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3872: Aug 6th 2012 at 4:21:12 PM

Cannot wait for this album to come out. Usually I don't bother with black metal derived from the second wave (not that I dislike 2nd wave BM) but this French band fortunately go back to the basics and then beyond them. Think Mortuary Drape, early Varathron, later Sabbat (Jpn), Mercyful Fate, and Death SS combined to make a single 40 minute psychedelic descent into whatever bizarre hermetic realms this band regularly plunges into.

Also, Zealotry's new single, Blighted Paradise/Decaying Echoes is currently the only "technical" metal release since Crimson Massacre's 2005 The Luster of Pandemonium worth a damn. Experimental/progressive stuff that actually doesn't forget about the songwriting and compositional expertise that made the genre great in the first place.

Binah's Hallucinating In Resurrecture came out on the 24th of July and in spite of its Sunlight Studios guitar tone, isn't exactly another Nihilist/Entombed/Dismember wannabe - influences from the more melodic side of death/doom, earlier American death metal, and Finnish style crushing gloom, occasional traditional metal esque lead work, and long arching song constructions keep them head and shoulders above the rest.

There's Maveth's up and coming Coils of the Black Earth, another band out to crush the feeble swoop haired/instrumental fellatio/backwards baseball cap/pop-hook "death metal" currently responsible for the genre's infestation of hipsters, bro-slammers, music theory snobs, and scene-emo bacteria-people. It's got a sort of descending occult vibe, comparable to Incantation although accusations of "clone band" fall short due to their far more orderly, less disruptive approach to songwriting and a melodic sensibility distinctive of their Finnish heritage.

The more traditional front doesn't seem to have as many heavy hitters coming up so far but I wouldn't be quick to dismiss it. Shadow Kingdom records is bringing us a side project of Manilla Road fronted by vocalist/guitarist Mark "The Shark" Shelton called Hellwell. They play something that while definitely in the vein of the main band, have an even stronger 70's aesthetic thanks to the notable pseudo-progressive rock/Deep Purple esque style synthesizer work. The two preview tracks are definitely IMO sounding far better than Manilla Road's rather lackluster previous album.

Another Shadow Kingdom band, Altar Of Oblivion, is also looking to step up their game. Grand Gesture Of Defiance, officially coming out on September 11, looks to continue in the same powerful, militaristic style of epic doom, this time with what seems to be a more forceful approach to song direction.

Earlier this year however, the label already hit pretty hard with Pale Divine's Painted Windows Black and all I can really say is that well, it's just straight up traditional doom metal. Some Candlemass, some Trouble, some Black Sabbath, some Saint Vitus, some Pentagram... yeah, it makes its influences clear but that doesn't change how well put together the whole thing is.

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Somewhat lesser known than all of these are the Swedish Trial, joining fellow countrymen such as RAM, Steelwing, In Solitude, and Portrait in bringing back and simultaneously improving various classic metal approaches. Their style is closer to a darker, mystical take on NWOBHM featuring soaring, airy rhythms (not balls-less ones mind you) like Angel Witch and a lot of smokey, snaking melodies. It ultimately resembles the last album of that band albeit better realized (the added punch is nice) to my ears.

edited 6th Aug '12 5:06:29 PM by StillbirthMachine

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DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#3873: Aug 10th 2012 at 9:01:46 PM

Just got Fear Factory's new album The Industrialist... all I can say is: they've finally done it. They've finally made a worthy successor to Demanufacture. And it only took 17 years to do, too. tongue

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#3874: Aug 10th 2012 at 10:26:13 PM

Hmm, actually pretty good. I'm glad I stuck with it for a while because some of the first few tracks weren't quite my cuppa. That said, I've only made it as far as God Eater, which I'm quite liking.

edited 10th Aug '12 10:28:19 PM by Balmung

YonTroper Since: Aug, 2009
#3875: Aug 14th 2012 at 7:29:36 PM

Back from Bloodstock! Absolutely brilliant weekend. Some thoughts...

Good stuff

  • Amazing sets from Alice Cooper, Behemoth, Testament, Nile, Moonsorrow, Iced Earth, Sanctuary, Chthonic, Evile and Demonic Resurrection... among many.
  • Hatebreed. I really don't care for their music at all, but everybody was really getting into it, and they put on a good show. Biggest surprise of the weekend for me, definitely better live than in the studio. The constant demands from Jamey Jasta to "LOSE YOUR VOICE!" and asking for unreasonably large circle pits did get annoying, though.
  • Timing was excellent, the Sophie Lancaster stage bands were mostly scheduled for when the bands on the main stage weren't on. Really well done. (Still had to miss part of Orange Goblin's set for Testament, but hey, small potatoes.)
  • No wasps.

Bad stuff

  • Watain. Not because of their music, which was good but unspectacular. They ended up changing places with Dio Disciples and had their set pushed back because apparently they refused to play when it wasn't dark, but I suspect one of them just showed up late. And they still got a full hour set, meaning that Behemoth's had about half an hour cut off! And that was the one everyone wanted to see! (But said Behemoth set did have the best rendition of "Lucifer" I've heard yet, so that more than made up for it.)
  • Bored senseless by Machine Head's set. Testament put on a killer show, why weren't they the headliners? Mayhem and Dimmu Borgir also fell flat, Mayhem really had no stage presence and Dimmu were just hopeless. (Clean vocals sounded lame - they really need ICS Vortex back, Shagrath is dreadful.)
  • The Sophie Lancaster tent was incredibly, incredibly loud. You don't need sound that loud for a tent that size! Alcest put on a great set in there, but it was so loud I seriously couldn't hear anything not directly shouted into my ears for 20 minutes. Thank God I wasn't that close for Anaal Nathrakh, although listening to Anaal Nathrakh from 20 yards outside the tent's door is not fun.
  • ZP Theart and Nick Holmes seriously need better stage banter. ZP sounds like he has Tourette's and acted like a complete dick throughout his set, and Nick's attempts at humor were frankly embarrassing. (Good set from Paradise Lost otherwise, not so much from I Am I.)
  • The naked guy crowd surfing during the Black Dahlia Murder. I did NOT need to see that. Rumour has it he was getting certain... favors... in the pit.


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