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StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3751: May 6th 2012 at 10:57:47 PM

Galloping riffs are cool and all but they really lose their charm when they're seemingly the only riffs you know anything about. I like them as much as the next Iron Maiden fan but please I.E., use them in moderation and contrast them with other riff-forms.

I'm pretty okay with the production on Born of the Cauldron; it's supposed to be rough and raw, just like their music and subject matter. It's also a lot more distinctive than the usual spotlessly clean treatment most power metal gets.

I can definitely hear similarities between Manilla Road and Cauldron Born although the two sound very dissimilar to me. Manilla have a heavier 70's influence and weirder, more wandering song structures as well as a more spastic style while Cauldron Born sound more technical and advanced, bearing many more hallmarks of established USPM favourites.

If Manilla Road gets such a page, then Cirith Ungol should too. I could help or rather advise for the former but my actual knowledge of tropes is rather lacking.

Also, general thoughts on Encyclopaedia Metallum? I registered for it yesterday and uploaded my reviews for ''Under The Black Cross'' by the Dutch Pentacle and ''Thanatopsis'' by Vex from Texas.

edited 7th May '12 4:19:19 PM by StillbirthMachine

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xexyzl Since: Jan, 2001
#3752: May 6th 2012 at 11:47:15 PM

They're a bunch of "elitists" (aka they have standards)[lol]

Great resource, reviews tend to be a mixed bag (hence the nearly 200 page Review Cleanup thread to delete old and not so old crappy ones), decent forum community with more diversity of opinion than their reputation suggests.

DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#3753: May 7th 2012 at 12:18:38 AM

Addendum to my previous Iced Earth ramblings: while I enjoy the Something Wicked story, I do wish Schaffer would give Set Abominae a break song-wise. He makes an awesome mascot, but we've had three albums straight with Set involved in some fashion (Framing Armageddon and The Crucible of Man were all about him, and two songs from Dystopia continue the story). Honestly, I was fine with the story provided on Something Wicked This Way Comes, expansion wasn't really that necessary since Set's just a mascot, after all. :/

WoolieWool Heading for tomorrow Since: Jan, 2001
Heading for tomorrow
#3754: May 7th 2012 at 5:11:21 AM

I don't find Set Abominae a very effective mascot. His design is too generic and too busy to cause the instant recall you get when you think of Eddie or Chaly.

Out of Context Theater: Mike K "'Bloody Pussies' cracked me up"
StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3755: May 7th 2012 at 4:16:33 PM

He looks like he'd be a pretty tough Diablo III enemy though.

Anyhoo, re-listening to Ceremony's Tyranny From Above and loving it. It's like the forgotten Sinister album. Furious blasting death metal, kind of like Suffocation and the aforementioned Dutch band but with a lethal dose of melody arising through the carnage.

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#3756: May 7th 2012 at 4:52:26 PM

Stu Block does a total Matt Barlow impression in Iced Earth. I was hoping he would do his high-pitched shriek instead but it was not to be.
He does do it a little bit.

I like Iced Earth, some of their stuff anyway.

I guess it is.
xexyzl Since: Jan, 2001
#3757: May 7th 2012 at 8:52:19 PM

Anyhoo, re-listening to Ceremony's Tyranny From Above and loving it. It's like the forgotten Sinister album.
Another reminder that while I've heard a decent amount of OSDM, I haven't heard nearly enough. Seriously, it's as though a classic album/demo came out every week between '89 and '94

DemonSharkKisame Since: May, 2009
#3758: May 7th 2012 at 10:18:27 PM

Stu Block does a total Matt Barlow impression in Iced Earth. I was hoping he would do his high-pitched shriek instead but it was not to be.

He sounds more like Matt Barlow and John Greely thrown in a blender to me, but I see where you're coming from. I sort of wish Stu would dip more into his sound from Into Eternity, some occasional death-growls wouldn't sound bad with IE at all.

WoolieWool Heading for tomorrow Since: Jan, 2001
Heading for tomorrow
#3759: May 9th 2012 at 6:00:37 AM

I'm really sick of harsh vocals being shoehorned into almost every conceivable subgenre of metal.

Great resource, reviews tend to be a mixed bag (hence the nearly 200 page Review Cleanup thread to delete old and not so old crappy ones), decent forum community with more diversity of opinion than their reputation suggests.
The forums are certainly better than they used to be, especially since they now ban "you like band X so you are obviously homosexual" numbskulls.

edited 9th May '12 6:04:10 AM by WoolieWool

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StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3760: May 9th 2012 at 11:31:56 AM

Same. I get the feeling that bands assume that if they have harsh vocals in their not so harsh music they're automatically death/black metal or that they're adding extra "heaviness" to the songs when more often than not they sound like pointless add-on's that don't do much aside from stick out awkwardly and make a style lose its flavour.

edited 9th May '12 11:32:01 AM by StillbirthMachine

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NEO from Qrrbrbirlbel Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
#3761: May 9th 2012 at 2:52:58 PM

HOLY SWEARING.

No regret shall pass over the threshold!
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#3762: May 9th 2012 at 7:05:04 PM

I personally like clean or operatic singing in most cases, and growls that I can actua,ly understand the words to. Those weirdass high-pitched growls are never good, and screaming can only be pulled off by a few people (most of whom are named Bruce Motherfucking Dickinson).

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#3763: May 9th 2012 at 10:25:54 PM

Clean/operatic vocals all the way for me. of course, I'm not a real metal fan so I don't really count :P

Growly/screamy lyrics are a garnish, not a sledgehammer. at least in what I prefer to listen to.

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pagad Sneering Imperialist from perfidious Albion Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Sneering Imperialist
#3764: May 10th 2012 at 1:38:44 PM

I don't like ultra-low-pitched growls. They just sound like the vocalist's really bored to me.

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Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#3765: May 10th 2012 at 2:10:01 PM

Agreed. A mid-ranged growl is optimal. My favourite growling is probably Suidakra's.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#3766: May 10th 2012 at 2:47:48 PM

Doublepost because Suid Akr A now has a page that needs love.

edited 10th May '12 3:20:31 PM by Exelixi

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
StillbirthMachine Heresiarch Command from The Womb ov Impurities Since: Mar, 2012
Heresiarch Command
#3767: May 10th 2012 at 10:04:47 PM

Low growls are great if you want really cavernous and gloomy death metal a la Incantation or Disembowelment.

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Lordnecronus dOOOOM from Wales Since: Sep, 2009
dOOOOM
#3768: May 11th 2012 at 3:06:10 AM

Mentioning those two bands specifically actually helps me sum up my feelings on low-pitched growls. Renato Gallina is one of my favourite harsh vocalists ever, whereas I find Craig Pillard* really dull. Basically, low-pitched growls are hit and miss for me, and I tend to prefer them when they're a bit more varied.

*

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#3769: May 11th 2012 at 11:24:47 AM

I generally prefer clean vocals, though I can get behind Soprano and Gravel combinations.

edited 11th May '12 11:25:03 AM by Balmung

Exelixi Lesbarian from Alchemist's workshop Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
#3770: May 11th 2012 at 3:02:30 PM

Man, I fucking love Iron Maiden. Throughout their career, many bands have tried to surpass them, but all have failed. They are and always will be the Iron Fucking Maiden, the kings of metal, etc etc etc.

Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
MidnightRambler Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan! from Germania Inferior Since: Mar, 2011
Ich bin nicht schuld! 's ist Gottes Plan!
#3771: May 11th 2012 at 4:33:00 PM

[up] Except many elements of their sound - the high-pitched operatic vocals, harmonised guitar parts, and fast tempos - were introduced into metal by Judas Priest before Maiden even had a record out.

Priest never had to 'try to surpass Maiden'; it's the other way around. Maiden followed in Priest's footsteps.

edited 11th May '12 4:37:36 PM by MidnightRambler

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InmostLight Pretty Little Horse from The Carnival Since: May, 2012
Pretty Little Horse
#3772: May 11th 2012 at 6:18:41 PM

Anyone here like Genghis Tron?

edited 11th May '12 6:19:33 PM by InmostLight

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xexyzl Since: Jan, 2001
#3774: May 12th 2012 at 3:13:13 PM

Sounds like a pretty decent Power Ballad. Haven't heard much Sabaton though, so I wouldn't know how it compares to their other stuff.

KingNerd Can-I-Bus from Suburbia. Since: Dec, 1969
Can-I-Bus
#3775: May 13th 2012 at 12:04:24 AM

Anyone here like Rage Against The Machine?

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