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lightdarkhero250 Quad Optometrist from Somewhere Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#33801: Apr 30th 2011 at 9:24:29 AM

And Karkat's aspiration was to be a Threshecutioner.

This guy does seem like he'd be good at Threshecutioning.

edited 30th Apr '11 9:26:24 AM by lightdarkhero250

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#33802: Apr 30th 2011 at 9:47:50 AM

Hmmm. Maybe we're seeing a metamorphic counterpart to the Mothergrub?

What happens to males who ascend beyond a super saiyan and than go even further beyond meet the right conditions, perhaps.

Although the red might just be the lighting, or the blood from all the mutants he likes to wear as a hat.

Charlie Tunoku is a lover and a fighter.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#33803: Apr 30th 2011 at 9:49:03 AM

Holy hell in a ham-basket, Karkat's ancestor is HUGE. Does this mean Karkat would have gotten that big, had the plot not fucked everything up? I also like the concept of ancestor!Karkat being higher (potentially) than ancestor!Gamzee.

Oh, yeah, Mindfang. Is. Awesome... Again!

Taco Since: Jan, 2001
#33804: Apr 30th 2011 at 9:57:56 AM

Holy crap, this is the first theory I made up that wasn't pooh-pooh'd by someone. The problem I have with my own theory is that the highblood's horns aren't nubbins like Karkat's.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#33805: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:02:51 AM

wild mass guessKarkat's horns were ground down and or haven't grown fullywild mass guess

Also, there is no troll with hurns that match that monstrosity, so the candy red coloring is the most telling detail.

Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#33806: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:08:13 AM

It could be Karkat's ancestor's lusus, if anything.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#33807: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:14:06 AM

Nah. Check it out, it has huma... troll hands instead of crab claws.

deathjavu This foreboding is fa... from The internet, obviously Since: Feb, 2010
This foreboding is fa...
#33808: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:25:23 AM

Damn, this is shaping up to be epic.

I like the theory that that's Karkat's ancestor, just because that would be sweet. The evidence is sorta flimsy though. But this is Homestuck, master of the incredibly vague foreshadowing using very minor details.

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Nornagest Since: Jan, 2001
#33809: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:32:08 AM

Absurdly badass.

I will keep my soul in a place out of sight, Far off, where the pulse of it is not heard.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#33810: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:41:28 AM

Another (potentially ham-fisted) parallel:
Karkat is the leader. The position a highblood would normally fill. The position this candy red ancestor seems to fiOHGODVRISKASGOINGTOKILLTEREZIANDKARKATISGOINGTOTAKEREVENGE! OHJEGUSWHY!?!

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33812: Apr 30th 2011 at 10:51:51 AM

I think he's sarcasting.

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slowzombie Platypus! from Way up North Since: Jan, 2001
Platypus!
#33813: Apr 30th 2011 at 11:07:34 AM

Or maybe he's DOUBLE SARCASTING!

...

Nah, I can't really say I believe that.

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#33814: Apr 30th 2011 at 11:33:34 AM

He's a skilled sarcaster, his sars are among the best I've ever seen.

Also, Harlequin is trying to sell me a book.

Charlie Tunoku is a lover and a fighter.
Ryusui Since: Jan, 2001
#33815: Apr 30th 2011 at 11:57:15 AM

I don't know if I'm the last horse crossing the finish line or what, but I think I just realized something.

History isn't repeating itself. It's continuing from where it left off.

The trolls aren't merely reiterating the past described in Marquise Mindfang's journal, they're carrying on the conflict. Didn't we theorize that Kanaya's ancestor was Marquise Mindfang's slave girl? If so, that's two murders worth of karma coming down on Eridan's ass when she chainsawed him.

On a more complicated note, Marquise Mindfang admitted she wished she hadn't had to kill Redglare because she thought she'd make a good rival. Appropriately enough, their descendants ended up partners in crime and then rivals.

And of course, we have Gamzee, the Subjuggulator, the capricious overlord, effectively ruling the trolls through fear even now. And we know for a fact that none of them manage to stop him before then Critical Moment. The terrifying thing to consider, given how he's manipulated Terezi, is that the reason he hasn't killed anyone else lately might not be because Kanaya kicked his ass, but rather because he's running an even bigger game. That's one thing that's never been ascribed to the Subjuggulators...

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#33816: Apr 30th 2011 at 11:59:29 AM

So... Karkacestor is judge, jury, and threshcutioner?

Ryusui Since: Jan, 2001
#33817: Apr 30th 2011 at 12:34:30 PM

It makes his role as the mediator who united the trolls all the more appropriate. And it also makes me wonder what the hell is going to happen to him next.

LudicrousLurker Maid of Rage from Schrodinger's Fancy Hat Since: Feb, 2011
Maid of Rage
#33818: Apr 30th 2011 at 12:45:58 PM

Holy crab! :O Also, boohoo redglare sobbusobbu. In a nonsarcastic way, though. Also, that's really terrifying now that I think about it.

Also, I beseech thee! I need some Equius<>Nepeta pics for a blag I'm runnning-ish. Also, I'm trying to figure out which songs exactly are mashed into Descend. So far, I've got Upward Movement, Sburban Jungle, Beatdown, Black, Atomyk Ebonpyre, and Sepulchritude, but I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few. Could you help me out? It's for a class.

Neep Revolution of Ruin from Booooooooomblastandruin Since: Jan, 2001
Revolution of Ruin
#33819: Apr 30th 2011 at 1:18:55 PM

Here's something that's been bothering me. Terezi's blood is teal. Mindfang's is pale blue. Why were their eyes turned red when they burned out?

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LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
Taco Since: Jan, 2001
#33821: Apr 30th 2011 at 1:54:06 PM

Hussie actually explained that one. Apparently troll eyes have different stuff than blood in em.

Makuta9999 (OG troper)
#33822: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:02:51 PM

OUR eyes have different stuff than blood in them. It's a clear gel-like substance that can't be recreated by our bodies after birth.

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HungryJoe Gristknife from Under the Tree Since: Dec, 2009
Gristknife
#33824: Apr 30th 2011 at 2:40:37 PM

Yeah, Hussie explained that while Troll blood is different colors, their eyes, unless they're crying, are the same colors in each individual.

Humans are the reverse situation, with different eyes but blood who's difference is only on the chemical level.

I still argue that the Alternians have a fluid based nervous system, like the Krogan, and that their psychic powers are manifestations of different compositions.

Some fanfiction writers argue that psychic abilities are more common amongst lower bloods, as shown by Sollux and Aradia having no need for strifespecibi, Tavros barely needing his, and that Vriska's possession of both manipul8ion and blue blood is an anomaloy.

I would argue that either lower ranks are more prone to mutations, such as Karkat, or that there are simply more of them. One does not make a ruling class out of those displaying the most common phenotypes, so it stands to reason that proportionally the aristocracy may have fewer psychics over all, but proportionally they're the same.

Either way it means that 1/4 of Trolls, since we seem to have been presented with a good cross section of their species and culture, will possess some sort of psychic ability.

Charlie Tunoku is a lover and a fighter.
Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#33825: Apr 30th 2011 at 3:06:21 PM

I remember someone mentioning it to Dave too. "Wait, you're psychic?" And then the troll mentioned the low blood thing. I just finished my binge, so it's probably true. I haven't read any fanfic, at least....

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