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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#208001: Sep 28th 2025 at 8:20:01 AM

How's this for a page-topper:

What's Elesa from Unova's real hair color? Either she's blonde and dyed her hair for Black and White 2, or she's got dark hair and dyed her hair blonde in the original.

Of course, there's the possibility she has a third hair color and dyed it in both instances.

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#208002: Sep 28th 2025 at 8:52:18 AM

[up]Speaking of Electric-type gym leaders, I've noticed that we don't have a female Electric-type gym leader who's also a scientist. I think having a Adorkable Teen Genius Electric-type gym leader girl would be a nice addition for a future game.

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#208003: Sep 28th 2025 at 9:15:01 AM

Off the top of my head, Electric Gym Leaders summarized:

  • War veteran from another region (and pre-Earth Drift, outright from America even)
  • Exuberant old man who was once in charge (ha) of an urban renewal project
  • Minato Namikaze clone who got bored of winning every time
  • A model, an honest-to-goodness model
  • Nerd who lives in the Eiffel Tower
  • Literally a V-Tuber

In fairness to that archetype we've only had two female Electric Gym Leaders, though both of them are fairly outgoing.

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#208004: Sep 28th 2025 at 11:03:59 AM

[up]actually Surge is a Unovan now.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#208005: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:07:29 PM

[up][up][up][up]Probably blonde. It's a lot harder to dye black hair blonde than it is to dye blonde hair black, from what I understand.

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#208006: Sep 28th 2025 at 1:18:12 PM

You know, I'm not sure I ever realised Elesa was supposed to be blonde? I guess with her headphones and her bw2 design, I must've assumed it was some sort of... hat?

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#208007: Sep 28th 2025 at 7:52:01 PM

Currently going down a "Fixing Johto's Gym Leaders" rabbit hole on YT and came to the realization that HGSS would be 10/10 games if they had only bothered to actually do so. I get that the remakes tend to lean towards fidelity over modernization, but it was a prime chance to improve on one key flaw of the original games and they didn't, for the most part.

I'd have taken fixing the level curve the later Gym Leaders do, at the minimum. The stuff about half of them not even having a single Gen II Pokemon can be justified by Early-Installment Weirdness (Hoenn would be the first region to actually be designed with the modern formula in mind).

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#208008: Sep 28th 2025 at 9:49:38 PM

Though Wattson is still odd in that he didn’t have a Gen III Mon until Emerald, which was then undone in ORAS. Bit of a bizarre choice there.

Anyway, I’ve been working on my fan region ideas, and I have a question—does anyone have any good recommendations for Grass team strategies that DON’T revolve around Sunny Day? I don’t have a problem if it’s used a bit, but for both aesthetic reasons and worries that it would leave the team too vulnerable to Fire, I would prefer not to have it be the dominant strategy.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#208009: Sep 28th 2025 at 9:54:55 PM

[up] In general, ORAS followed the originals with the Gym Leader’s teams, not even letting them be rematched like Emerald did, despite the fact that doing so would let the Gym Leaders use Pokémon introduced after Gen III in rematches.

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The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion Long time lurker from a deep dark hole Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#208010: Sep 28th 2025 at 10:16:21 PM

[up][up]why not make a fan made water grass team that uses storm drain to heal themselves and have a grass move that gaines a increase of power in rain?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#208011: Sep 28th 2025 at 11:21:21 PM

[up][up]What's especially weird is they were willing to update the Elite Four's initial teams by evolving Phoebe's second Dusclops and replacing Glacia's Sealeos with Froslasses.

The weirdly barebones way of handling the Gym Leaders (RS teams, no rematches) is probably the second biggest issue with ORAS behind the Battle Frontier being cut because of kids' attention spans.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Sep 28th 2025 at 2:22:17 PM

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#208012: Sep 28th 2025 at 11:52:27 PM

I wonder if we’ll ever see a Battle Frontier again. SV didn’t even have any battle facilities - although of course there is still competitive play to fill that niche to some extent.

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#208013: Sep 29th 2025 at 12:46:04 AM

I'm thinking things like Dynamax/Tera Raids have largely replaced the battle facility as the postgame activity of choice for Gamefreak, given that the latter tend to impose artificial restrictions on your Pokemon and the former promote co-op play.

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#208014: Sep 29th 2025 at 12:50:45 PM

why not make a fan made water grass team that uses storm drain to heal themselves and have a grass move that gaines a increase of power in rain?

So invent a new move, basically? I suppose it could be done (I already had an idea for a Rotom form based on a boombox), but I was admittedly hoping for something I could base on existing elements.

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#208015: Sep 29th 2025 at 2:46:44 PM

What type was your boombox Rotom form? A new Sound type or something?

[down] That’d fit too, since we have Exploud as a Normal type and the like.

Edited by Lymantria on Sep 29th 2025 at 5:49:03 AM

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KaabiiFan13 Since: Apr, 2022
#208016: Sep 29th 2025 at 2:47:56 PM

[up][up] + [up] I think a Normal-type Boombox Rotom with Hyper Voice or Boomburst makes the most sense, though I wouldn't mind using other types instead. Btw Did you come up with other Rotom forms?

Edited by KaabiiFan13 on Sep 29th 2025 at 5:17:36 AM

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#208017: Sep 29th 2025 at 2:55:31 PM

Edit: never mind

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Sep 30th 2025 at 12:25:01 AM

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#208018: Sep 29th 2025 at 4:26:15 PM

[up][up] That’s roughly what I had in mind, an Electric/Normal type with Hyper Voice (Boomburst was a bit overpowered for the point I was thinking the player would encounter one).

And I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing more Rotom forms, particularly with the increased prominence it’s had in the past decade or so.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Sep 29th 2025 at 7:29:20 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#208019: Sep 29th 2025 at 5:54:24 PM

A few of these have been done to death, but:

  • Boombox (Hyper Voice)
  • Rock Tumbler (Power Gem)
  • Blender (Sludge Bomb)
  • Backup Generator (Parabolic Charge)
  • Bug Zapper (Bug Buzz)
  • Jackhammer (Earth Power)
  • Lamp (Dark Pulse)
  • Arcade Cabinet (Aura Sphere)
  • Satellite Dish (Psychic)
  • Table Saw (Flash Cannon)
  • Hair Dryer (Dragon Pulse)
  • Television (Shadow Ball)
  • Aroma Diffuser (Dazzling Gleam)

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#208020: Sep 29th 2025 at 7:08:35 PM

I think the Grass/Fire/Water starter type triangle would be a bit better if Grass didn't have five weaknesses to account for. Like the types' relationship with each other is good, but Grass got the short end of the stick beyond it.

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#208021: Sep 29th 2025 at 7:33:12 PM

And Water on the flip side got only two weaknesses making it hard to fight them if you don't have them at all.

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#208022: Sep 29th 2025 at 7:59:42 PM

I picture an old, thick TV for a Psychic Rotom

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#208023: Sep 29th 2025 at 8:05:56 PM

[up]no that's Electric/Electric type.

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#208024: Sep 30th 2025 at 9:16:39 PM

Apologies for the double post but Warning:Pokemon Legends ZA is now in the wild! I repeat Pokemon Legends ZA is out in the wild now! Go to your nearest spoiler bunker immediately!

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#208025: Sep 30th 2025 at 9:18:18 PM

I need to know is Hydreigon in or is he out?

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