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GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#203026: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:44:40 AM

I think the rumble pack makes it hard to port? But it is one of my favorite pokemon spinoffs.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#203027: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:52:29 AM

You mean Pokemon Pinball? They made Kirby Tilt 'n Tumble work on the NSO...

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#203028: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:14:59 AM

The way I see it, Hoopa doesn't necessarily work as a main story antagonist, but it is perfect trigger for postgame story.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#203029: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:22:29 AM

I’d love to see Hoopa as comic relief for the main plot.

Like just have him show up and use his powers to cause a bit of chaos and leave without elaborating.

Or sometimes he’s just eating donuts in peace after a fake out of trying to mess with you.

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#203030: Aug 2nd 2024 at 4:24:28 AM

I remember before Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon was announced, I saw a fan comic on Tumblr about a hypothetical Gen 6 PMD game where the hero and partner (one of them was a Skrelp) meet Hoopa, who eats ring donuts and calls them "onigiri".

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#203031: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:24:47 AM

It may have come out after, but Hoopa did some actual rice balls in an anime short.

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wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#203032: Aug 2nd 2024 at 7:30:36 AM

TBH, I don't really like pinball games anymore.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#203033: Aug 2nd 2024 at 12:06:31 PM

Decided to look at all of the BSTs for the starters at each level of Evolution and discovered they shakeout in really weird ways:

    A look at the Starter BSTs 
  • Gen 1, 2, and 4 have identical BSTs across type lines (Both Charizard, Typhosion, and Infernape's lines are 309/405/534 respectively, for example).

  • Gen 3's starters have uniform BSTs across all lines... except for Swampert which has +5 points for no obvious reason.

  • In Gens 1-4, all the middle stages have a uniform BST of 405. Gen 5 breaks this... while having uniform BSTs for the basic and fully evolved stages (308 and 528 respectively).

  • Gen 6 BSTs get weird; Grass and Water have identical middle and final evolution BSTs, while the base stage is off by 1 point. The Fennekin line just does it's own thing, being -6 or -7 at first stage, before jumping to +4 for the last two.

  • Gen 7 fully commits to the 530 final stage BST across the board, with 320 for basic stage and 420 for the mid stage.

  • Gen 8 proceeds to drop the basic stage BST down by 10 points to 310.

  • Finally, Gen 9 drops the middle stage BST down by 10 points to 410, except for the special little crocodile, Crocalor who just randomly has 411 BST for some reason.

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#203034: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:29:34 PM

In terms of BST (not counting Megas), Swampert is still the starter with the highest stat total, at 535, for some reason. Charizard, Typhlosion, Infernape, and Delphox are tied for second place at 534. The (fully evolved) starter with the lowest BST is a tie between Venusaur, Meganium, and Torterra at 525.

I wonder how they would do it if all of the starters were to get buffed to 535 (except for Swampert).

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:29:55 AM

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#203035: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:32:16 PM

Fire is already the cool type. Not sure why GF feels the need to handicap the worst starter type so often.

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#203036: Aug 2nd 2024 at 3:57:23 PM

I feel the antagonistic force will be a new Pokemon, basically the A in Legends Z-A. And if Zygarde is supposed to be order, I can guess what the A is

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#203038: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:08:05 PM

Grass is ass.

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wooden-ladybug93 Since: Feb, 2024
#203039: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:09:03 PM

My next badge to get is the Ice-type gym leader. Sonic (my shiny Typhlosion) should be able to roast them.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#203040: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:24:31 PM

One of the biggest surprises of Pokémon Legends: Arceus for me was the inclusion of Enamorus as the newest member of the Forces of Nature. It makes me wonder if Z-A will do something similar.

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#203041: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:44:25 PM

If so, I wonder who they could give it to. The birds got regional forms, the beasts and swords of justice (minus Keldeo) got Paradox forms, the Regis got 2 new members, Kalos doesn’t have its own sublegendaries, and I think Galar is too recent (and doesn’t exactly have a proper native group either). So I guess that leaves the Lake Guardians and the Tapu?

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#203042: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:58:14 PM

One thing Pokémon Vega and its prequels Altair/Sirius did that I kinda liked was give their starters BSTs based on how viable the starter types are competitively, in battles, and/or in a vacuum. The better the type, the lower the BST. Correncid (Water/Poison) got a BST of 525. Astignite (Fire/Steel) got a BST of 530. Syleafid (Grass/Flying, ouch) got a BST of 535.

Edited by leafsaber47 on Aug 2nd 2024 at 9:00:39 AM

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#203043: Aug 2nd 2024 at 5:59:12 PM

I'd suggest a third horse to go alongside Glastrier and Spectrier, but what kind of stat spread would you even give it?

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#203044: Aug 2nd 2024 at 6:04:20 PM

Making it a Jack of All Stats that's a middle horse between them would make the most sense.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#203045: Aug 2nd 2024 at 6:22:19 PM

I'd say a second pair might be better for horsemen theming as for stats. I'd say go with special tank and mixed attacker.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#203046: Aug 2nd 2024 at 6:34:02 PM

[up] And that way they could complete the set of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, too.

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#203047: Aug 2nd 2024 at 6:34:42 PM

Let's say Glastrier and Spectrier represent Famine and Death, respectively, and have the other two be a Poison-type and a Fighting-type for Pestilence and War. tongue

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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#203048: Aug 2nd 2024 at 6:59:38 PM

Glastrier’s either Famine or Conquest (or both) the latter of which was the original first horseman in the original Bible.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#203050: Aug 2nd 2024 at 9:45:42 PM

[up] Lugia, Ho-oh, and a third new bird.

Edited by MEKristian on Aug 3rd 2024 at 10:16:28 AM


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