Pokémon General Thread

Why is it so hard get a second shiny Milcery in Shield? I've bred around 1260 Milcery with the Masuda method, yet only got a single shiny...

We Monster Hunter players call it the "Desire Sensor." The game knows you want it, so it's being spiteful and withholding it from you.

I think pretty much every game fandom knows about Desire Sensor lol

Yyyep. Came out in full force for me in SS. Oh, you want a Chansey swarm so you can get a Lucky Egg? Here, have several other Pokémon swarms that are completely useless! (Well OK one of them was Luvdisc which helped me fix my Ampharos' moveset so not entirely useless but. Still. Trolled for weeks on end before the game caved and gave me what I wanted.)

I managed to finally catch a female Alpha Togetic in Pokémon Legends: Arceus. I'm still trying to catch female Alphas of the three starters, but the above has given me some hope it'll happen eventually.

I've also recently managed to complete Oshawott's Path of Solitude. I had to level her up to 88 to have enough bulk to survive Rowlett's Leaf Blade, but I got it in the end.

The desire sensor knew that I was searching for a Shiny Tentacool in Pokemon Let's go Eevee using the chaining method, lure and shiny charm but didn't find any shinies. I did catch a Moltres instead which I wasn't expecting since I thought that Articuno spawned by the Seafoam Islands.

Edited by neoamon on Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:37:23 AM

Went and got the Charcoal from the Ruins of Alph for my Ninetales which means yes, I did catch Ho-Oh. I also took its Sacred Ash just in case.

Caught my first wild non-event Shiny in Shield! (It was a Machoke btw)

So, The Pokemon Company did such a terrible job of managing the Korean VGC tournaments (no prior communication as to how qualification worked, locking the younger age divisions out of getting to do anything, no IRL events, doing tournament formats that were vulnerable to cheese strats, buggy online servers resulting in a whole tournament results getting thrown out with only token compensation) that all four of the finalists for Worlds qualification decided to protest by colluding to turn the finals into a Metronome Battle. TPC proceeded to disqualify all four of them. Apparently the rest of the Asian circuit is having similar problems; it looks like TPC isn't as good at tournament management as TPCi.

Edited by Anura on Jun 3rd 2023 at 2:06:56 PM

Transistor was nerfed to a x1.3 boost. Game Freak apparently realized that Regieleki is insane with Tera and gave it a slap on the wrist.

Dragon's Maw was untouched fwiw.

The problem with being too good.

For the record, I parsed my reply in an inappropiated way, as pretty much a contextless link and I apologize for it; pretty much the entire set of finalists from that one tournament were going with blatantly genned teams, and so the entire boycott maneuver kinda rings hollow. Of course, proper tournament organization ought to be a thing, but the attempt at high moral standing is not as clear cut as it seems.

There's literally nothing wrong with using genned Pokemon teams in tournament play. So long as the Pokemon's stats are within the parameters of what could be obtained in-game, then they have no unfair advantage over other competitors. They simply skipped steps in obtaining the Pokemon that have nothing to do with what skills the tournament competition is actually testing. Saying it's cheating is like saying it's cheating in a TCG tournament to use cards you bought individually instead of opening them from random packs.

But that's also a completely irrelevant argument to this attempted protest. Them genning the Pokemon with Metronome instead of catching them in-game doesn't have any relevance on the moral standing of their position against TPC nor was it the reason why TPC disqualified them.

"high moral standing"? they're a bunch of people who are passionate about a video game, some of these people's livings depend on how well they do, and they're getting screwed over by a major company.

not to mention that all of these teams are perfectly legal, and TPC doesn't have a history of banning players just because a pokemon was obviously genned, so long as it isn't technically provable.

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Edited by EpicBleye on Jun 3rd 2023 at 11:27:15 AM

Saying it's cheating is like saying it's cheating in a TCG tournament to use cards you bought individually instead of opening them from random packs.

A better comparison would be using cards you printed yourself.

not at all the same. trading card games have physical, tangible, limited resources, and having one means that somebody else doesn't have one.

not to mention, printing out a card means producing a resource that does not already exist, (potentially, theoretically) diminishing the value of all the other resources that currently exist.

with video games, and infinite amount of people could theoretically have the exact same pokemon and all of them could have been obtained through in-game means completely legitimately.

if you duplicate a pokemon, both players can still have the same resource and it doesn't diminish the value of either because an infinite number of them are available anyways.

...besides ^note this is not a terribly serious take and is besides the point being discussed., trading card games aren't exactly the basis of morality you should be pulling from considering the intensely predatory nature of them. if players could play using the cards they printed off that would be an improvement.

Edited by EpicBleye on Jun 3rd 2023 at 1:22:07 PM

I've actually been watching some videos recently about how long it takes to make full competitive teams legit and it exceeds 20 hours to get all 6 members prepped. And this is with RNG manipulation to bypass IV BS.

Edited by Karxrida on Jun 3rd 2023 at 10:43:50 AM

20 hours seems rather extreme to me during this day and age. unless you're grinding out every single resource from scratch, i was able to make a fully competitive team for my friend in less than a work day.

Welp. Time to Selfdestruct out of embarrassment. Turns out Togekiss was never a trade evo and always evolved from Togetic via Shiny Stone. And I don't really have a big pool of trade evos to pick from... considering either Scizor or Steelix.

Edited by ReikoKazama on Jun 4th 2023 at 4:03:00 AM

It's funny though, when a dataminer/hacker can easily discover a competitive player's Pokemon is practically impossible to find in the wild despite being perfectly legal

1. How can a normal person be better at finding these things than TPC

2. The existence of the Pokemon itself, being clearly illegally obtained - wild 6IV Shiny with the correct nature (no mint and bottle cap used).
Chance to get one is apparently around 1 in five hundred billions, no way it's not genned, yet still falls within legal parameter because the chance to get one is not 0%

Edited by ShiningStardust on Jun 5th 2023 at 2:23:02 AM

TPC clearly doesn't care about genning unless it's widespread. I imagine they like having a competitive scene

I thought it was way easier than ever to get a fully competitive team nowadays if you farm enough raids. EXP candies, EV medicine and IV caps drop a bunch from those, and you don't even have to be lvl 100 anymore, plus egg moves are really easy now.

At worst maybe if you want some big TM and you don't wanna engage in mon farming.

They didn't even bother to make the genning not obvious.

That said, aside from Tera Types it takes like 5 minutes to fully train a Pokémon in this generation.

Indeed. I mean, it is clearly a violation of terms of usage, and the game nowadays makes everything but tera changing a walk in the park (well, other than vitamins being quite expensive even with the game tossing money at you), so, at least put the effort of making it look credible.

Nothing actually wrong with it, just... looks bad. Specially with the "whole livelihood depends on that" deal, as the developers of Pk Hex clearly state they do not condone the usage of generated 'mons for multiplayer where any of the parts is ignorant of its usage, and officially the terms of usage for Pokemon games and specially competitions clearly state that external programs are not to be used.

The Pokemon generated is legal but unlikely, but the entire deal is a violation of the code of honor at the very least.