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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#196301: Apr 20th 2023 at 11:38:19 AM

I do wish they used Dexit as an excuse to buff old timers more, and not just the popular ones. Do more Gen 7 esque buffs damn you, it made Torkoal and Pelipper usable. tongue

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#196302: Apr 20th 2023 at 11:39:17 AM

[up][up][up]Yeah, I can't imagine how the ocean size could have been an accident, but I also can't imagine why anyone would have consciously done that.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Apr 20th 2023 at 2:39:24 PM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#196303: Apr 20th 2023 at 12:12:36 PM

I miss the updated stats the 3DS games gave, specially the SM ones.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#196304: Apr 20th 2023 at 12:41:50 PM

Give Dodrio Hi-Jump Kick GF, that was just cruel

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#196305: Apr 20th 2023 at 12:51:01 PM

Jump Kick was a wonderful coverage move, and not redundant flavor-wise.

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#196306: Apr 20th 2023 at 1:00:56 PM

Dexit was not inevitable, they had no problem fitting 800 Pokemon on the freaking 3DS, they could easily fit 1000 on the Switch. Hell, Home is a Switch game and it can hold all 1000+ Pokemon.

It is 100% not a realistic hardware limitation that they cannot fit all the Pokemon in one game.

I never said anything about hardware limitations. The way I see it it was either that or, as I've vouched for previously, they would start limiting the available Pokemon once they decided to stop making new Pokemon species completely. The fact that neither applies is irrelevant. Dexit was always going to happen sooner or later.

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#196307: Apr 20th 2023 at 1:10:19 PM

I'm not gonna say if Dexit was justified or not.

Buuut, I will say that it's been rather noticeable that ever since Gen 6, we've been getting less new Pokemon as opposed to redesigning or reimagining older ones.

So yea, they've definitely been trying to cut back on the bloat.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#196308: Apr 20th 2023 at 1:17:11 PM

I hope if they keep up coming up with convergents over regionals they're more Toedscool than Wiglett.

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#196309: Apr 20th 2023 at 1:19:26 PM
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#196310: Apr 20th 2023 at 1:27:20 PM

The bloat thing is dumb, because it's not like they're ashamed of having new Pokemon. They made a big deal over Gholdengo being Pokemon No 1000. IRL the number of Pokemon will only ever be a tiny percentage of the number of real world animals, if it even reaches **a** percent.

I can kinda see Dexit being a product of competitive balance, with them now giving every Pokemon the generational gimmicks, some Pokemon aren't designed with said gimmicks in mind (Such as Shedninja). But those cases are the minority, and it just feels like GF has some need to control what Pokemon are used for a given playthrough nowadays, which IMO is a generally bad thing.

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#196311: Apr 20th 2023 at 1:49:44 PM

Have you seen what Natdex tiering is like? There are legitimately too many Pokemon for Smogon's tiering system to work properly with them all present anymore, which is further compounded by ladder shenanigans.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#196312: Apr 20th 2023 at 2:14:29 PM

Plus the new gimmicks can occasionally create absolute monsters like Electric Shedinja. [lol]

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#196313: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:02:26 PM

[up][up][up]There are over 1 million different species of beetles so we'd need over 10,000 Pokemon before the number of Pokemon is even a single percent of the number of real-world beetles, let alone all animals.

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#196314: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:06:32 PM

Their also Yokai. We haven't even finished having a mon for every one yet.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#196315: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:10:17 PM

We did take till gen 9 to get something as basic as a dolphin or a scarab. [lol]

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#196316: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:21:32 PM

Now I will have to wait years before we get a sperm whale pokemon.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#196317: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:25:32 PM

[up][up]We did get a dolphin in Generation 3, but I get that you meant a non-orca dolphin.

I'm honestly surprised it took till Generation 9 as well. I always figured a dolphin would be one of those animals that got used as inspiration very early on.

[up]As someone who likes whales, I really do hope we get a Pokemon based on a sperm whale (or at least some sort of toothed whale) in the future.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Apr 20th 2023 at 3:26:15 AM

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
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#196318: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:35:57 PM

So what Yokai based Pokemon are there already?

We have:

  1. Ninetales/Zoroark - Kitsune
  2. Golduck/Ludicolo - Kappa
  3. Slowbro - Sazae-oni
  4. Drowzee/Musharna - Baku
  5. Exeggutor - Jimenju
  6. Jynx - Yama-uba
  7. Espeon - Nekomata
  8. Misdreavus - Nukekubi
  9. Dunsparce - Tsuchinoko
  10. Shiftry - Tengu
  11. Mawile - Futakuchi-onna
  12. Dusclops - Chochin-obake
  13. Weavile - Kamaitachi
  14. Froslass - Yuki-onna
  15. Sawk/Throh - Oni
  16. Centiscorch - Omukade
  17. Gigantamax Copperajah - Nurikabe

Thats all the ones I can think of right now, but I probably have forgotten about some.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#196319: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:37:04 PM

I think Cetoddle/Cetitan are based on a Japanese whale cryptid, not quite as old as a Youkai though.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
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#196321: Apr 20th 2023 at 3:47:07 PM

[up][up][up] Chandelure /Grevard are based on Hitodama Light.

Plus Raikou is based on a Raijū. And Hydreigon like what's it's based on is Orochi

Edited by miraculous on Apr 20th 2023 at 3:49:53 AM

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#196322: Apr 20th 2023 at 4:05:05 PM

I hope we get a mon based on a Kasa-Obake or one of those strangling cotton rolls one day.

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#196323: Apr 20th 2023 at 4:08:34 PM

I'm hoping for a toxic bird pokemon one day

no Zubat you dont count ur not a bird

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#196324: Apr 20th 2023 at 4:12:47 PM

[up] It learns Brave Bird, it's close enough. tongue

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#196325: Apr 20th 2023 at 4:17:03 PM

Meowth is based on the Manekineko/beckoning cat statue, which itself is based on a story about a cat youkai.
Growlithe and Arcanine are based on Komainu/Shishi.
Electabuzz is based on the depiction of oni wearing tiger skins, sitting in the clouds causing thunder by playing drums.
Magikarp and Gyarados are based on the story of a carp climbing a waterfall and becoming a dragon.
Dratini line is the Dragon-type most based directly on Asian dragons, which could be considered a youkai.
Cyndaquil line is possibly based on the Hinezumi/fire rat.
Ariados is possibly based on Tsuchigumo.
Raikou, Entei, and Suicune aren't really based on any particular youkai, but they're all meant to be reminiscent of youkai or shinto gods.
I don't think Lugia was really meant to be based on a specific mythical creature when it was designed, but there's some later things that retroactively associate it with Ryujin/Wadatsumi, the king of dragons and god of the ocean.
Ho-oh is right in the name, it's based on the Houou/Fènghuáng, ie. the Chinese phoenix.
It's not exactly a youkai, but Whiscash is based on the legends of giant catfish able to cause earthquakes.
Absol is possibly based on the Hakutaku/Bái​ Zé.
Snorunt is a Zashiki Warashi, and Glalie is meant to look like an oni mask.
And also not exactly youkai, but Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus are based off the gods Fujin, Raijin, and Inari, and them and Enamorus' Therian Formes are based on the animals of the four gods.
It's a bit of a stretch, but Goodra might be based on the Shussebora.
Phantump is based on Kodama.

Not youkai, but some other interesting ones based on Japanese cultural objects. Baltoy/Claydol are based on Shakouki Doguu statues, Castform and Shuppet are both visually based on Teruteru Bouzu dolls, Bronzor/Bronzong are based on a bronze mirrors and bells made in ancient Japan, and Darumaka/Darmanitan are based on Daruma dolls.

Edited by KuroBaraHime on Apr 20th 2023 at 7:18:30 AM


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