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Anura from England Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#189176: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:18:52 PM

[up][up][up]They've been breaking more and more patterns lately. "What they've always done" isn't as reliable as it used to be.

Edited by Anura on Feb 24th 2022 at 1:19:08 PM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#189177: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:22:35 PM

I got bottom-paged so I'll make the point I forgot to bring up here.

The anime has always been half-assed as an actual adaptation of the games. It only tried like twice and mostly uses game iconography as a loose vehicle to advertise the individual Pokémon. Presumably because merch.

Edited by Karxrida on Feb 24th 2022 at 5:25:45 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#189178: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:51:09 PM

Arceus makes for a fine approach for the Safari zone, yeah.

Battling is just far deeper than "chug Poke Balls". But apparently the issue most people have with Pokemon is the genre.

Edited by Eriorguez on Feb 24th 2022 at 2:52:05 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#189179: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:53:40 PM

Yeah. In terms of adapting the games, they've always put very little effort into the Evil Team plots, with the last time they tried being back in Kalos.

Alola had zero interest in it at all (not ever really adapting the Aether Foundation stuff at all) and now the series is barely actually touching Galar period.

It's almost as though they just don't actually care about the latest region.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#189180: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:57:13 PM

Erm, they literally adapted the climax of Sword and Shield, with Go catching Eternatus? Bea the gym leader acts as a sort of rival to Ash? Twilight Wings is an entire prequel to Sword and Shield?

Rob pay attention please.tongue

Edited by Eriorguez on Feb 24th 2022 at 2:57:24 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#189181: Feb 24th 2022 at 6:54:03 PM

They adapted it in like, 2 or 3 episodes.

They used to do this for entire arcs. They got it out of the way as quickly as possible so they could go back to team rocket antics and the usual shit.

I've been paying attention.

Put your damn tongue back in your mouth. You look silly.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#189182: Feb 24th 2022 at 9:39:21 PM

To be fair "two or three episodes on the villain team plot" is exactly as much attention the games themselves gave it :P

Plus as mentioned, Arceus is barely a month old, they're not going to cannibalize their own game by announcing a new one coming already.

Legends Arceus came out literally 3 months after BDSP. 3 entire months between two mainline games

Edited by PippingFool on Feb 25th 2022 at 4:42:19 AM

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#189183: Feb 24th 2022 at 10:44:34 PM

[up]Yeah, but BDSP was a side project Game Freak thrust on somebody else once they lost interest in just doing a remake, Legends is what they actually wanted to make and spent their effort on. They were pretty clear upfront, too, about BDSP being something to just release before Legends was finished.

Edited by lbssb on Feb 24th 2022 at 10:51:05 AM

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RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#189184: Feb 24th 2022 at 11:41:13 PM

They were pretty clear upfront, too, about BDSP being something to just release before Legends was finished.
When did they say this?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#189185: Feb 24th 2022 at 11:55:06 PM

We know there's some kind of DLC coming for Arceus - paid or not - because they promised they're going to release some kind of content that links the game to Pokemon: Home.

Even if it's all technical stuff, they are working on stuff they could theoretically announce for the game.

NthEquation from Africa Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#189186: Feb 25th 2022 at 12:31:07 AM

[up][up]Iirc, it was said never. There is no source for this claim. It reminds me of when Sw Sh was coming out. All gamefreak said was that they have two teams, one working on pokemon and the other on little town hero and people moving between the two teams. And some people took that to mean fewer resources and manpower were being put into the game than usual.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#189187: Feb 25th 2022 at 1:56:31 AM

The fact that BDSP got the holiday release and PLA didn't makes me think that the higher-ups consider the latter a weird side-project

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#189188: Feb 25th 2022 at 2:37:16 AM

I found a website for AI generating fakemon. Might be fun to play around with.

I got this thing, apparently a Rock/Flying Type. Looks like some sort of elk or moose with wings instead of horns.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fakemon.png

Neat.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 25th 2022 at 3:39:18 AM

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#189189: Feb 25th 2022 at 2:53:31 AM

I got a sentient clock. This design is kinda lame but I think the idea of a Clock Pokemon doesn't sound too off an idea.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fakemon_6.png

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#189190: Feb 25th 2022 at 3:20:51 AM

Look at this big, friendly Ground/Ice worm.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fakemon2.png

I really like this one, I could see something like this as a Regional Variant alternate evolution for Onix instead of Steelix. Slushix.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 25th 2022 at 4:22:12 AM

PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#189191: Feb 25th 2022 at 3:21:42 AM

Even if BDSP was meant to be the side platter to PLA's main course (even tho BDSP got the coveted and lucrative holiday window release and PLA got the doldrums of January), the point of the matter is that they did, indeed, "cannibalize" their own franchise's sales by releasing a new mainline game just short of 3 months from each other

Hell. If, hypothetically speaking, we do get a G9 announcement and it's slated to come out around holiday time this year. That would 'still'' be a wider gap between the release of PLA and ~Gen 9~ than the gap between BDSP and PLA

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MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth
#189192: Feb 25th 2022 at 4:18:43 AM

Got some good electric types

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/2f5e723c_0845_414f_adbb_c41004e80e8e.png

This golem’s Electric/Rock

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/06d80d0c_d188_4eb9_9c24_523b8d16974c.png

This feller’s Grass/Electric

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bab403e4_0cfa_4e4c_aef2_20568ce55d1a.png

And this one’s Electric/Psychic

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Feb 25th 2022 at 2:19:11 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#189193: Feb 25th 2022 at 4:30:44 AM

[up][up] There's a few differences though.

1) BDSP and Arceus were announced at the same time, so everyone knew they'd be releasing close to each other from the outset.

That's not really the same as dropping a new game and then a month later announcing a new one is coming literally a month later.

2) There was a three month gap between BDSP and Arceus. That's generally enough wiggle room for people to get their fix in the former before moving onto the latter.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#189194: Feb 25th 2022 at 4:39:15 AM

There was a three month gap between BDSP and Arceus. That's generally enough wiggle room for people to get their fix in the former before moving onto the latter.

Wait. So a 3 month gap is good enough wiggle room by a 10 month gap is "cannibalizing the other game's numbers"?

Edited by PippingFool on Feb 25th 2022 at 11:39:24 PM

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#189195: Feb 25th 2022 at 4:41:37 AM

I think it's unlikely they'll announce Gen 9 games, but not particularly because I think it'll cannibalize Legends' sales or because of any patterns, but just because I doubt Gamefreak will be able to finish Gen 9 games in less in the year from them finishing Legends unless it ends up super rushed. BDSP was mostly able to come out so close to PLA because it was made by a totally separate team.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#189196: Feb 25th 2022 at 4:52:28 AM

[up][up] Are you just intentionally ignoring the part that said announcing a new game a month after the old one or....?

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#189197: Feb 25th 2022 at 5:18:16 AM

[up][up] Game Freak has separate teams, and looking at the credits of Legends doesn't really show the usual people involved with the first games of a gen.

Masuda was directing BDSP, for the record.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#189198: Feb 25th 2022 at 6:25:08 AM

[up]x2

Do you not know how silly it sounds to be like "it makes no sense to announce a new game a month after the newest game comes out" while pointing out that they announced two games in the same breath? Because that's pretty silly.

Not to mention Generation 9, assuming it sticks to the classic formula, has a completely different audience than PLA. PLA is a semi-open world game where you're meant to catch multiples of every species whereas Generation 9 wouldn't be anything like that. While there's obviously going to be some crossover (These games are being targeted at Pokemon fans and potential newcomers after all.) announcing Generation 9 isn't going to take away sales from PLA because they're targeted at people who want different things.

PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Eclipse the Moon
#189199: Feb 25th 2022 at 6:45:49 AM

[up][up]

I think it may have been mentioned by Masuda or one of the upper brass that Legends Arceus was a game mostly cut by the newbloods, which makes sense.

At the end of the day though, it's really hard to claim that any Pokemon game would "cannibalize/take away from" the others considering SWSH, BDSP and PLA had very similar launch week numbers (6mil, 6mil and 6.5mil respectively. Good on PLA for being the unexpected forerunner there) regardless of how long or short the time period was between entries.

Edited by PippingFool on Feb 26th 2022 at 1:51:14 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#189200: Feb 25th 2022 at 7:22:14 AM

I made a whole concept surrounding this fakemon I got from this website.

Slushix
A Regional Variant alternate evolution of Onix. Height: 29'6"/9m, Weight: 551.2lbs/250kg.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fakemon2.png

Living at the top of snowy mountains has given it a diet of ice and dirt and built up a thick layer of snow on Onix's body, transforming it into this Pokemon. It claims a mountain or two as its territory and tunnels through them, carving out caves. It's very friendly to human travelers and smaller wild Pokemon, letting them use its tunnels as shelter from the elements. However, it's very territorial and aggressive toward larger Pokemon that threaten its domain over its territory, such as Aggron or other Slushix (or human vehicles).
Type: Ground/Ice
Abilities: Ice Body, Sturdy, Snow Force (boosts the power of all moves by 30% in Hail)
Stats: 85/75/180/55/75/40 total: 510

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 25th 2022 at 8:25:46 AM


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