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Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#188126: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:57:24 PM

@rhyme: Phew close call!

lol at archeops not learning brave bird because it's not brave. What is brave bird called in Japanese?

EDIT: apparently just brave bird.

Edited by Vertigo_High on Dec 14th 2021 at 6:58:26 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188127: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:59:20 PM

Brave Bird is a TR in the Galar games. Zubat is grandafathered it looks like, but, yeah, Archeops and perhaps Aerodactyl are better fits for it.

Sky Attack's original name is God Bird, and, well, all 3 bats (hell, all 4, Gliscor gets it as well), Aerodactyl, Archeops, and even flightless birds got it in USUM...

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#188128: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:16:10 PM

If Tapu Koko can get Brave Bird, a lot of other fliers should get it too.

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#188129: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:28:46 PM

Aerodactyl should get Brave Bird, but I love that Archeops doesn't get it because it's not brave, it should continue to not get it for that reason.

Not like not having it hurts Archeops all that much, the recoil would hurt it a lot more than most Pokemon.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188130: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:30:53 PM

I mean, it usually runs Head Smash as a suicide lead...

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#188131: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:34:06 PM

Did not know that. Still... maybe it would be funny to have a Hidden Ability Archeops, and ONLY Archeops with that Hidden Ability can learn Brave Bird, even going so far that if you change the Hidden Ability back to Defeatist, it forgets Brave Bird.

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#188132: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:34:44 PM

(Looks up from other tabs) Suicide lead?

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#188133: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:41:51 PM

[up] A Suicide Lead is a Pokemon that you send out first and often mean to either set up or attack and then die or not last. For example, Galvantula's frail as fuck and will fold to any strong move. But you can slap a Focus Sash and use Sticky Web to set up a hazard then attack a bit before going down.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188134: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:57:59 PM

Archeops pretty much sets up Stealth Rock, then kills itself by Head Smashing, with the benefit of getting the next 'mon in with no damage.

Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#188135: Dec 14th 2021 at 8:12:03 PM

Rimbombee can do the same I think.

I remember Reborn using that very tactic in a particularly aggravating fight late game.

Wow I've been sleeping on the Galarian Star tournament. It's actually fun, especially when you limit your pokemon to 3 like everyone else. It can be fairly challenging too especially when you draw the Leon/Mustard team as an opponent.

Milo sucks though, don't choose him as a partner <_<

Edited by Vertigo_High on Dec 14th 2021 at 9:09:34 AM

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#188136: Dec 14th 2021 at 11:34:17 PM

Kinda cross-posted from the anime thread (different source): a four part arc of the Journeys anime based off Legends: Arceus is coming exclusively to Amazon Prime, with the first half releasing on January 21st and the second half on January 28th.

Edited by tclittle on Dec 14th 2021 at 1:34:50 PM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#188137: Dec 14th 2021 at 11:36:39 PM

Probably worth noting that the exclusivity only applies to the Japanese release. I think Netflix has the North American airing rights at the moment, and there doesn't seem to be any indication about the English release.

Edited by Karxrida on Dec 14th 2021 at 11:36:51 AM

Shad0wSmoke Since: Nov, 2013
#188138: Dec 15th 2021 at 3:01:55 AM

Doesn't she have like, two walls that exist just to bleed resources before you get to her nuke pokemon? Or am I wrong in my belief about what Spiritomb and Gastrodon are for?

Which is funny because that also makes them convenient to set up on to sweep her whole team. I've seen multiple casual vtubers set up on Spiritomb and sweep her team while Smallant's underleveled lv56 Snorlax set up Curse on Gastrodon.

What are "pseudo-legendries"?
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pseudo-legendary_PokA9mon There have been official artwork of them and they're pretty nice.

Anyway, has anyone noticed the Jirachi entry missing on the character sheet for hoenn Pokemon? I think someone accidentally removed it when moving the weather trio to their own page.

Edited by Shad0wSmoke on Dec 15th 2021 at 3:02:08 AM

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#188139: Dec 15th 2021 at 6:21:11 AM

More new characters.

Interesting lore tidbit: the Hisuians call Arceus Sinnoh.

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Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#188141: Dec 15th 2021 at 11:51:26 PM

Seriously the reason people struggle with cynthia is that they just do nothing but run raw attacks and don't bother setting up or using actual strategy.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188142: Dec 16th 2021 at 12:58:22 AM

[up]Hardly surprising, since that is exactly what the game teaches.

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#188143: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:10:49 AM

The only way to reliably beat your rival at the start of every game is for them to stupidly use a status move instead of just attacking.

That does not set the best first impression and example for the player.

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#188144: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:17:55 AM

Speaking of Pseudo-Legendaries, it irks me when people think that they're actually a kind of legendary, when they're not. It's definitely the name that causes that confusion, and I'm guessing it originated from when Dratini was called a legendary in Gen 1 because the terminology hadn't been established yet. They're called the 600 club in Japanese according to that Bulbapedia article, which is a lot less ambiguous.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#188145: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:32:44 AM

I thought Arcanine was the one called a "legendary"?

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#188146: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:35:57 AM

The only way to reliably beat your rival at the start of every game is for them to stupidly use a status move instead of just attacking.

That does not set the best first impression and example for the player.

That hasn't been true for several generations now.

PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#188147: Dec 16th 2021 at 1:56:57 AM

BDSP, however, is one of those games where "spam attack 2 beat rival" is the encouraged mode. Probably because it's a a faithful-to-a-fault remake of a game that's 15 years old

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188148: Dec 16th 2021 at 3:47:04 AM

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You know what "pseudo" means? It means FALSE.

They are false legendaries, because, they have the stats of a legendary but aren't one.

If you are going to complain about nomenclature, do your etymology homework beforehand.

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#188149: Dec 16th 2021 at 3:54:52 AM

600 club sounds like an exclusive club is rather confusing title!

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 16th 2021 at 11:55:04 AM

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#188150: Dec 16th 2021 at 3:57:58 AM

[up][up]I know. I meant I've seen a few other people think that Pseudo-Legendary is a category of legendaries when it isn't. No need to be so harsh.

[up][up][up][up][up]True, but the Dratini line were called "legendary" in the earliest days, such as the Safari Zone gun episode. As late as 2001, Dratini and Dragonair appear on a mural with all the legendaries as of Gen 2 in the "Ready Go" opening.note 


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