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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188101: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:29:19 AM

Axew was the first unevolved Dragon to not be a pseudo, after all.

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#188102: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:45:57 AM

Also Noibat/Noivern
And Druddigon
And Altaria
And Turtonator and Drampa
And Dragalge
And Tyrunt/Tyrantrum
And Alolan Exeggutor
And Applin/Flapple/Appletun
And Dracozolt
And Dracovish
And Duraladon

And that's not even counting the Megas that add a dragon typing like Mega Sceptile, Mega Ampharos or Mega Charizard X. Though for three stage lines, it seems to be mostly just the Trapinch, Seadra and Axew lines

So there are a decent amount of Non-Pseudo, Non-Legendary/UB Dragons out there

Edited by PippingFool on Dec 15th 2021 at 2:49:03 AM

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#188103: Dec 14th 2021 at 7:52:48 AM

Uh, you'll note the words 'first' and 'unevolved' there. Axew was gen 5, while everything you listed there was gen 6+. Except for altaria, which evolved from a normal/flying type

Edited by Hylarn on Dec 14th 2021 at 8:43:39 AM

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#188104: Dec 14th 2021 at 8:43:05 AM

[up]Well, Druddigon was also Gen V. However, it's a one-stage, so it's probably its own category anyway.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#188105: Dec 14th 2021 at 9:04:23 AM

Technically that would make Kingdra as the first 3 stage NP Dragon type line, Trapinch the first NP 3 stage Dragon type line released within a single generation and Axew the first three NP stage Dragon type line in which all members have the Dragon typing

And you got Homeboy Altaria just chillin

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#188106: Dec 14th 2021 at 9:17:05 AM

Hisusian Voltorb is Berry sorry.

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#188107: Dec 14th 2021 at 9:23:07 AM

Voltorb has nothing to be sorry about. Pikachu just got mad for no reason. What a bully!

[down]In a different video?

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:13:35 PM

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#188108: Dec 14th 2021 at 9:25:24 AM

Well Voltorb did eat all of Pikachu and Co's Berries...

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#188109: Dec 14th 2021 at 9:28:56 AM

but how does he eat berries has no mouth!

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#188110: Dec 14th 2021 at 2:55:35 PM

Why won't Pokemon give Gyarados a flying STAB?

I made up one that I called

  • Spinning Serpent Slam: The user gathers up flying energy and drops on the Opponent like a flying wheel.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188111: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:04:05 PM

That's Bounce. AKA the Flying move Gyarados gets. tongue

Edited by Eriorguez on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:04:17 PM

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#188112: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:09:23 PM

It's kinda amazing the sheer amount of coverage Gyrados has.

Yet it only has one flying move despite being one of itit types

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#188113: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:13:54 PM

  • [up][up] No, It's not a two-turn move.
  • [up] Yaa big G. Is a force of nature.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#188114: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:16:39 PM

Clearly we need to give Gary Brave Bird, so it can fly in and wreck shop.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#188115: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:16:54 PM

The blessings of a Gen 1 movepool, and 7 more gens of extra stuff. [lol]

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#188116: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:18:23 PM

It's just hilarious that they've never added any other flying moves to him in all this time [lol]

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#188117: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:19:07 PM

Game Freak: We're not giving Gyarados any flying stab.

also Game Freak: But we will give him Power Whip (???????)

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188118: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:19:51 PM

[up][up][up][up] Gary MF-ing Oak using Brave Bird? Why not!

On that topic, give Aerodactyl Brave Bird and Head Smash; if bats can use Brave Bird, the actual stem-bird has more of a reason to do it.

And Milotic some coverage! I'll even take just Psychic/Dazzling Gleam/Shadow Ball, at this rate!

Edited by Eriorguez on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:20:39 PM

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#188119: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:22:11 PM

I thought you said Archeops instead of Aerodactyl, and I was gonna say "the reason Archeops can't use Brave Bird isn't that it's not a bird, it's because it's not brave".

I saw otherwise, but wasn't gonna let such a good joke go to waste, so there you go.

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#188120: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:27:07 PM

I think my fan move could maybe also be learned by, Dragonair, Dragonite, Rayquaza, and maybe Milotic.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#188121: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:35:05 PM

[up][up] That's a damn great observation dude.

Anyway, Dual Wingbeat is a great move, but, still plenty of stuff unable to visit the Isle of Armor.

And I still want Scorching Sands for Houndoom and Pyroar. And perhaps Salazzle, removing that move from her learnset didn't really do anything for balance.

Edited by Eriorguez on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:36:38 PM

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#188122: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:38:00 PM

Yeah, looking it up, Archeops indeed cannot learn Brave Bird. And it's not like a translation thing, Brave Bird in Japanese is just Bureibu Bado, it's meant to be Brave Bird. Maybe that is literally why Archeops can't learn it, it's too Defeatist (which in Japanese is "Yowaki", translating to Timid, which makes even more sense).

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 14th 2021 at 4:40:11 AM

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#188123: Dec 14th 2021 at 3:40:08 PM

....alright. It's time to settle it:

Can Water Pokemon that don't have legs, and aren't part flying battle on land anyway?

I recall in early seasons of the anime, any attempt to use Goldeen away from water just had it flopping uselessly on the ground. That being said, it was able to move on the ground via hopping way back in that Pikachu's vacation short.

The games allow you to use any water pokemon anywhere despite the fact that fish should be at a massive disadvantage in the desert, and they pretty much always float.

What do you guys think? Maybe the ultimate aim of a Water-type trainer is to be able to battle anywhere with any type of Water Pokemon, despite terrain advantage.

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#188125: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:53:36 PM

I thought you said Archeops instead of Aerodactyl, and I was gonna say "the reason Archeops can't use Brave Bird isn't that it's not a bird, it's because it's not brave".

Zubat learns Brave Bird via Egg Move and that thing definitely isn't a bird. Plus Archeops is probably closer to a bird than Zubat based on its inspiration.


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