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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#175351: Nov 2nd 2019 at 10:32:32 AM

One thing I learned about myself today: I really suck at navigating Ultra Wormholes. Gyro controls were never my forte.

I ended up missing a White Wormhole, only to end up in a yellow one. Then I got jumped by a Regirock (which, thankfully, I managed to catch).

I heard you can change to circle pad controls. I might try that instead.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 2nd 2019 at 10:35:08 AM

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
AgentKirin creature Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
creature
#175352: Nov 2nd 2019 at 2:27:16 PM

So close. The Moon Ball, Heavy Ball, and Love Ball are the only ones I have left to use up. Any suggestions for what to use them on?

So hit 'em with a whole tidal wave ~ We're killing it the entire way
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#175353: Nov 2nd 2019 at 2:29:39 PM

[up]I usually try to match the colors to the pokemon (Rough Skin Garchomp in a Luxury ball was quite an adventure).

AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#175354: Nov 2nd 2019 at 2:34:13 PM

  • Moon- anything Dark or Fairy.
  • Heavy- maybe anything Rock or Steel.
  • Love- anything cute.

Edited by AmethystLeslie on Nov 2nd 2019 at 5:34:26 AM

Goddammit, Schezo... || *insert incredibly thirsty copypasta about Dr. Ratio*
DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#175355: Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:32:46 AM

Never used Hariyama before. Kinda hoping it's in gen 8 so I can give it a shot. I'm thinking Guts + Flame Orb, with Belly Drum, Facade, Arm Thrust (Replaced with Reversal later), and Stone Edge.

RIP KissAnime.
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#175356: Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:47:35 AM

[up]That will definitely kill anything it can get its hands on, but how do you keep from getting revenge-killed?

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#175357: Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:51:06 AM

Well I was considering using Rest in place of Stone Edge, but then I'd be wide open to Flying types, so I figured, eh, death or glory.

RIP KissAnime.
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#175358: Nov 3rd 2019 at 1:11:48 AM

You probably shouldn't keep them in against flying types, though? This is in-game, not competitive. You're opponents aren't running hyper-optimized killing machines, and letting your mons faint is generally a pain to deal with

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#175359: Nov 3rd 2019 at 1:13:39 AM

Bit too much "death" and too little "glory", if you don't mind me saying so. Hariyama is really slow, and will be taking attacks every turn. If you actually cut your HP in half with Belly Drum, in addition to taking burn damage every turn, you'll basically be doing the opponent's job for them.

If you are set on the Guts thing, I'd recommend at least replacing Belly Drum. Fake Out is a good way to get some extra damage essentially for free, while Knock Off has some great utility and hits the more common switch-ins for super-effective damage.

Then again, you could also run Bullet Punch to go with that Belly Drum. Something similar seems to work out quite fine for Azumarill, though I guess the lack of STAB does hurt in this case.

You could also try a Thick Fat + Assault Vest set, giving you more reliable switch-in opportunities, spreading Fake Out and Knock Off all over the opposing team. You could also try for Rest + Sleep Talk, giving you more reliable recovery.

Ooh, maybe Rest + Sleep Talk on a Guts Hariyama, Facade and Knock Off as attacking moves, and Leftovers as an item. Doubt that would actually work all that great, but it should surprise the occasional jerk online.

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#175360: Nov 3rd 2019 at 1:19:07 AM

[up][up]If I'm fighting in-game, Max Potions are always viable.

[up] That actually does sound like a good moveset for PvP!

RIP KissAnime.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#175361: Nov 3rd 2019 at 1:23:55 AM

I don't think you can even get a Flame Orb for in-game until the postgame.

Also Facade isn't boosted by Sleep.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#175362: Nov 3rd 2019 at 1:26:53 AM

[up]Oh, hey, you're right. My bad! Cross Chop, perhaps?

Edited by Kayeka on Nov 3rd 2019 at 9:32:07 AM

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#175363: Nov 3rd 2019 at 1:30:40 AM

[up][up] You definitely get one in gen 7 for beating one of the trainers in Ula'ula meadow. As for gen 8, we'll see!

If anything, I could just let it get burned once and never heal it. Horrible trainer, I know.

RIP KissAnime.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#175364: Nov 3rd 2019 at 9:48:20 AM

After weeks of videos covering the many pokemon who benefited from today's Patreon pick, False Swipe Gaming is finally covering the one behind it all, Politoed.

Gen 2 actually saw the Toad land a notable role in OU, to my surprised. It's typing, movepool, and bulk allowed Politoed to threaten many defensive walls while surviving hits from the hardest hitters.

Gen 3 and 4 saw the Toad drop to NU because the mechanics changes and power creep meant it no longer had staying power in OU. Nothing more to say.

Gen 5, Politoed hopped to the top of the mountain and defined the entire generation around its new hidden ability, Drizzle. From Kingdra to Kabutops, if you could take advantage of rain then Politoed wanted you on the team. Things were banned, but no one will forget the Weather Wars of Gen 5 thanks to the Toad. Said dominance also showed in VGC, where Politoed was on nearly every top tier or playable team

Unfortunately, another mechanic change and the Drizzle ban sent the Toad plummeting off the mountain and straight down to PU. Without permanent weather, Rain teams in particular no longer worked as anything beside a gimmick in OU. Without Drizzle, Politoed couldn't even make a niche for itself in PU. VGC was kinder because of Mega Swampert, allowing the Toad to place high in various finals teams.

Gen 7 was much of the same, despite Z-Moves and the like.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#175365: Nov 3rd 2019 at 10:11:55 AM

[up]Small correction but Politoed was good in Gen 2 UU, not OU.

In gen 7 Rain was in a much better place but that was because of Pelipper being much more useful as a rain setter, Politoed itself was totally outclassed.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 3rd 2019 at 2:12:55 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#175366: Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:12:35 PM

Why wasn't Drizzle Polytoed allowed in UU in Gens 6 and 7 (especially Gen 7)?

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#175367: Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:18:11 PM

[up] UU specifically banned Drizzle rather than Politoad because rain teams utterly dominate gen 7 UU and Peliper might end up falling from OU because of less usage.

In Gen 6, Drizzle was banned in UU for the same reason.

Edited by tclittle on Nov 3rd 2019 at 2:22:47 PM

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#175368: Nov 3rd 2019 at 3:24:10 PM

UU is far more ban-happy than any other tier, by the way.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#175369: Nov 3rd 2019 at 3:35:47 PM

As someone who’s only passingly familiar with competitive Pokémon, what determines who gets in which tier?

The legend has returned.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#175370: Nov 3rd 2019 at 3:37:01 PM

Somewhat arbitrary statistics from Smogon based entirely on single battles performance.

Oh really when?
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#175371: Nov 3rd 2019 at 3:40:07 PM

Usage. The more a given Pokemon gets used the higher tiered it is. OU is literally "Over Used" because these are the most popular competitive Pokemon that have not been banned on their Pokemon Showdown servers.

They have councils to ban Pokemon from any given tier. A low tier Pokemon isn't inherently bad and many can and are used in higher tiers with success, though high tier Pokemon are inherently banned from anything lower than their usage-granted tier.

I can't remember what it was but some user got a Pokemon boosted to OU purely through memes and getting his Youtube audience to spam it on Showdown.

Edited by Hashil on Nov 3rd 2019 at 4:42:29 AM

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#175372: Nov 3rd 2019 at 3:54:14 PM

Smogon's "viability ranking" functions more like a traditional tier list. Forum members discuss Pokemon and a council of high-level players decide whether to raise or lower Pokemon.

Continue writing our story of peace.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#175373: Nov 3rd 2019 at 3:54:47 PM

Tiers are based on usage: the 50 most used species on a metagame cannot be used in lower metagames.

Edited by Eriorguez on Nov 3rd 2019 at 12:56:50 PM

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#175374: Nov 3rd 2019 at 4:03:59 PM

I can't remember what it was but some user got a Pokemon boosted to OU purely through memes and getting his Youtube audience to spam it on Showdown.

I think it was Pokeaim?

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#175375: Nov 3rd 2019 at 4:05:42 PM

It was probably Pokeaim.

I think they actually altered how stats are calculated specifically to prevent meme rises.


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