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Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#174951: Oct 18th 2019 at 12:39:13 AM

I never played around with seals as much as I should have and I tend to forget they existed.

I feel they could be pulled off pretty well with the current tech.

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#174952: Oct 18th 2019 at 2:06:07 AM

Oh wow, I feel so dumb. Earlier, I had to fight Totem Lurantis. The only Pokémon I had that could stand a chance were Braixen and Salandit. Problem is, Salandit only had Ember, while Braixen only had Ember and Fire Wheel. I knew Flamethrower wouldn't be available until much later, so I had no choice to fight the thing with incredibly weak fire moves. Even Inferno Overdrive with Comfey's Sunny Day wasn't evough to OHKO the thing. Tl;dr, Lurantis kept healing itself until Synthesis ran out of PP, after which I finally killed it and finished off Comfey. Then I just remembered that, as a starter, I could have taken Braixen to the mall and taught her Fire Pledge, which is significantly more powerful than Ember. I'm such an idiot...

RIP KissAnime.
AgentKirin creature Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
creature
#174953: Oct 18th 2019 at 9:01:12 PM

[up][up]The effects themselves would probably look nicer since we're not stuck with lower-resolution sprites, sure, but actually placing those effects in a 3D space seems like it'd be harder to do without looking "off." If Seals did make a return, they'd probably be a bit more limited as far as customization goes. Or they'd have the player put the effects on a sphere instead of a circle or something. Y'know what, that could actually work...

[up]Well, that move tutor is pretty easy to forget about. Congrats on getting through the trial, though!

Found a Friend Safari that had Frogadier, so I was able to get a female with Protean in X. Then I used Island Scan in Ultra Sun and caught a male Greninja in a Moon Ball. Once I evolve the former, I can pass the latter's Poke Ball down. Six Apriballs used, eight to go.

So hit 'em with a whole tidal wave ~ We're killing it the entire way
Vertigo_High Since: May, 2010
#174954: Oct 18th 2019 at 10:46:08 PM

The pledges I always forget about, Shame since it's good.

Edited by Vertigo_High on Oct 18th 2019 at 10:46:21 AM

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#174955: Oct 18th 2019 at 11:06:51 PM

I really have to wonder what it must be like for a Pokémon to have max Affection but 0 Friendship.

Ugh. Filthy human, making me their slave. If I ever get out of here I'll-ooh a rubber ball! Gimme, gimme!

RIP KissAnime.
KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Interesting Person #928
#174956: Oct 19th 2019 at 6:59:24 PM

I think it would sound more like this: "I know that sometimes my Trainer treats me really badly, but, when we play and they feed me with muffins, it's just so amazing!"

... Things got a pretty dark turn quite fast.

... And that's called jazz!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#174957: Oct 19th 2019 at 7:22:48 PM

Actually, isn't Friendship partially influenced by your character losing a lot? Maybe the opinion of a Pokemon with 0 Friendship could just be "yeah, he sucks as a fighter, I lose all the time and I have no belief whatsoever in his tactical combat skills, but he seems like a good guy when we're just hanging out".

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
☆♥☆
#174958: Oct 19th 2019 at 7:44:13 PM

In Japanese Affection is actually Friendliness (nakayoshi-do), and the name for Friendship actually means something more like Familiarity or sometimes Loyalty (natsuki-do).

So going off that high Affection (friendliness) but low Friendship (loyalty) would presumably be that the Pokemon is friendly, but doesn't know its trainer well and isn't well trained to follow commands. And high Friendship (loyalty) but low Affection (friendliness) would presumably be that the Pokemon is familiar with and loyal to its trainer, but isn't very friendly in a playing games kind of way.

Edited by KuroBaraHime on Oct 19th 2019 at 10:44:53 AM

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#174959: Oct 19th 2019 at 9:04:37 PM

The Digimon games that are more monster raising simulator than story-focused JRPG tend to have similar statistics to those that are localized closer to what Kuro said, but they're also (typically) opposed to one another. Raise loyalty and you make them less friendly, and vice versa.

I always wondered if Pokemon could do something similar and give different benefits for focusing on one or the other.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#174960: Oct 20th 2019 at 5:25:45 AM

Eh, proper raising in those games tends to maximize BOTH, AFAIK.

KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Interesting Person #928
#174961: Oct 20th 2019 at 8:56:27 AM

[up][up][up] So it's like a difference between liking you as a person and respecting you as a professional, it seems.

... And that's called jazz!
Ducolamia Pretty Cure fanatic Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
Pretty Cure fanatic
#174962: Oct 20th 2019 at 10:01:05 AM

[up] x4

So essentially it's just more of how it was translated here which is why it seems so interchangeable? I can't say I don't understand considering that the translations for the gen 1/2 were pretty wonky at best. I'd say it wasn't until the next gen, the translation become a bit better. My favorite term coming beforehand has to be the "X is confused no more!" status update. Just the way how it's presented gets a nice chuckle out of me.

However, I guess as a carry over it does suffer from being a bit confusing. Because a pokemon liking you a certain way isn't really elaborated. It's just more of the game saying, this pokemon is "really happy with you" or "X wants to play more". It's pretty vague in those terms I guess.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#174963: Oct 20th 2019 at 3:46:18 PM

What's your best shiny Pokemon story?

AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#174964: Oct 20th 2019 at 3:55:13 PM

I think one of my wilder shiny stories was when I hatched 3 shiny Gible in 3 days. I made the first one a Gabite, since it has the prettiest looking shiny of that line (it's a really pretty blue), the 2nd remained a Gible, and to round things off, the last one was a Garchomp.

Goddammit, Schezo... || *insert incredibly thirsty copypasta about Dr. Ratio*
AgentKirin creature Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
creature
#174965: Oct 20th 2019 at 4:07:43 PM

In Ultra Moon I was on my way out of Verdant Cavern after the first trial on day one and ran into a shiny Diglett. The only thing stopping me from putting it on my team was that its typing shared too many weaknesses with my Litten and Rockruff.

So hit 'em with a whole tidal wave ~ We're killing it the entire way
Serac she/her (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#174966: Oct 20th 2019 at 4:16:58 PM

My first shiny was a Boldore in Black. I hit it with Surf because I knew its Sturdy would make it survive with 1 HP, I caught it, and then I found out that it knew Self-Destruct. So that was lucky.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#174967: Oct 20th 2019 at 5:25:59 PM

Omastar was mainly used for Spikes support in early gens, and Swift Swim/Shell Smash offense powerful enough to contend with Gen 5 onward Ubers on some occasions. Typical power creep and weather nerfing meant it feel down to PU and stays there to this day.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#174968: Oct 20th 2019 at 5:31:21 PM

Interesting that Aerodactyl has unquestionably fared the best out of the gen 1 fossils. The higher speed tier probably had a lot of to do with that, as well as the Mega.

32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#174969: Oct 20th 2019 at 5:44:56 PM

My first shiny was super lucky.

One day in Diamond I wanted to add an Alakazam to my team, since it's one of my favourite Pokemon and boom shiny Kadabra.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#174970: Oct 20th 2019 at 5:50:06 PM

Typing as well. Being x4 weak to grass on top of their fighting weakness didn't do the pair any favors.

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#174971: Oct 20th 2019 at 8:18:52 PM

How about a shiny failure story? Because one just happened to me half an hour ago. I ran into a shiny Goomy just outside Po Town on Ultra Sun. Problem was that I didn't teach any of my Pokémon False Swipe because I wasn't hunting at the time, I was grinding. I did my best to deal minimal damage, but my freaking Zoroark landed a crit...

Somebody shoot me.

RIP KissAnime.
DonaldthePotholer from Miami's In-State Rival (Emeritus Troper) Relationship Status: Married to the job
#174972: Oct 20th 2019 at 8:36:24 PM

Let me guess: said Zoroark had high affection.

DelphineTheDelphox I thought sharks were my friends. from The Alola Region Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I thought sharks were my friends.
#174973: Oct 20th 2019 at 8:38:19 PM

[up] Yes, but it wasn't an affection crit. Just really bad RNG.

Edited by DelphineTheDelphox on Oct 20th 2019 at 8:39:55 AM

RIP KissAnime.
AgentKirin creature Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
creature
#174974: Oct 20th 2019 at 8:46:12 PM

I once found a shiny Shinx in one of the Sinnoh games (can't remember if it was Diamond or Platinum), and then accidentally knocked out Cresselia shortly afterwards. I rebooted the game to undo the KO, only to find out the hard way I didn't save after catching the Shinx.

Another one that's slightly less of a fail: My first shiny ever was a Gastrodon, which barely looks any different from a normal one. I only caught it because I didn't have one yet. I didn't even know what a shiny was at the time, and wondered why it had a sparkly effect whenever it was sent out. I only realized it was a shiny in retrospect, long after I'd restarted the game at least once.

Edited by AgentKirin on Oct 20th 2019 at 8:48:40 AM

So hit 'em with a whole tidal wave ~ We're killing it the entire way
tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#174975: Oct 20th 2019 at 10:14:18 PM

I haven't really had a good or bad luck with shinys other than not being able to find any.

The only one I got other than the one handed to you in gen 2 was a Golette in X. I really wanted to put it on my team (especially after I had a bit of fun with it in my Black playthrough), but I already had my team where I wanted it to be at the time.

I have made up my mind in any future games to attempt to put a shiny on my main team. Hopefully, I'll follow through if I ever manage to find another.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."

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