Pokémon General Thread

...or just get a Mon that can learn Ice Beam and freeze her Garchomp to death.

An ice pokemon you say?

but they suck

He didn't say an Ice type. Just something that can use Ice beam.

I have few water and Ice types even from when I was actively playing.

I suppose I could teach Ice Beam to Floatzel...if I didn't already give it to something else. I gotta check through all my T Ms and mons to see.

Pikipek:

So yeah. Where's good place to grind up my guys to the high 50's (and my boy Garchomp up to level 60)?

Gotta be ready for the league and Cynthia.

Victory Road or the League itself.

Maybe you don't need to grind to the high 50s, just maybe 55 at most.

Edited by AmethystLeslie on Mar 18th 2019 at 10:52:46 AM

I see. I already beat most of the trainers on Victory Road, so I guess I'll just fight the random mons there with the Exp share equipped.

Anyone on Pokemon Showdown right now. I have a team I wanna test out.

That moment when someone forgets Clefable is Fairy type.

So, I ended up looking into type distribution of Pokémon. But, instead of treating type combinations the same (such as Sableye and Spiritomb, which are both Ghost and Dark type), I treated them differently (Sableye is a Dark/Ghost, while Spiritomb is a Ghost/Dark). Just to see what happens.

Here's a link to the results. I grouped them up by families, which may skew the results slightly (for instance, the Caterpie line is counted as both a Bug family and a Bug/Flying family), but I didn't really want to count them by individual species, so it seemed like the best way to go about it.

Some observations:

(The following are based on the first set of data, which excludes type-changing Mega evolutions, Alolan forms, and Rotom forms)

• Bug and Normal are almost exclusively primary types. Bug has a split of 38 primary-type (Bug/TYPE) families to 3 secondary-type (TYPE/Bug) families. Normal has a split of 24 primary to 2 secondary.
• Rock, Water, Electric, Grass, and Fire are also heavily skewed towards being primary types. Their splits are:
  • Rock (20 to 8)
  • Water (35 to 10)
  • Electric (10 to 5)
  • Grass (23 to 10)
  • Fire (18 to 6)
• Ground, Flying (as expected), Fighting and Fairy are significantly skewed in the other direction. Their splits are:
  • Ground (9 to 20)
  • Flying (1 to 66)
  • Fighting (6 to 19)
  • Fairy (1 to 20).
• As expected, Normal has more monotyped families than it has dual-type families of both kinds combined. Electric is similar, having just as many monotyped families as it has dual-typed.
• Ghost (4 mono to 11 primary to 12 secondary) and Steel (3 mono to 13 primary to 19 secondary) have significantly fewer monotyped families than it has either kind of dual-type family. Flying also only has one monotyped family (Tornadus), but it also only has one dual-type family (Noivern).
• Counting primary and secondary pairings as different, and including Alolan forms and Megas, the following are populated entirely, or nearly entirely, of Pokémon families with unique type setups:
  • Pokémon with Bug, Electric, Fire, or Normal as a secondary type
  • Dual-type Pokémon with Fighting or Ground as a primary type
  • Dark, Dragon, Ghost, or Ice dual-types in general
  • Normal dual-types of all kinds that aren't Normal/Flying

[[https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-878796610 Clefable is such a trolly pokemon. I love it.]

Weird to think how the introduction of fairy type meant Normal lost a load of Pokemon,and to think if it had been introduced in early generations..

Phew. Just spent some time levelling up my guys on Victory Road, but since the enemies there are kind weak, it's slow going. I levelled everyone in my party up by one level, and taught Starraptor Brave Bird. Still, it's slow going.

I'm not really sure what I'm going to do to be honest. This may take too long. I might just have to tackle the Elite Four as I am, and lose a few times (I think you don't lose any levels you gain if you white out right?). That would level them up faster than fighting weak enemies.

Yup. It's the fastest way to level up at that point in the game by a lot.

The level curve in the DPPt games sucks ass. It's fairly linear sans a few level spikes, and then suddenly you get three huge spikes right in a row (Barry, then the Elite Four, and then Cynthia on top of that) that you can't possibly be ready for with how low level the surrounding pokemon and trainers are.

Edited by EpicBleye on Mar 19th 2019 at 6:15:58 AM

Well, shit. That's that.

Do I get to keep money too?

Yeah, I think you lose some portion of it every time you lose but it's negligible compared to how much you get.

You're right. I remember now.

Ok. Guess I'll see about tackling those bastards and see how long it take me to lose.

Flying being a secondary type makes sense, as it basically means “it has wings”.

does that mean Tornadus is the most unique mon in existence to lack even the Normal typing

It can also mean that it has propulsors, like Celesteela.

Rob: You might as well stock up on Vendor Trash if there's any for sale. It's too bad there's no bank like in the later Dragon Quest games...

I have a few nuggets. Also got some heart scales, but I believe those are more useful with the Move-Relearner.

Though I don't think I have any moves I want to re-learn.

Some Pokemon have moves at the beginning of their level-up move lists (before the level they are caught/evolved at) that can only be taught to them by the Move Reminder, so it might be worth checking anyway.

Even if the opponent knows Clefable is Fairy-type, I doubt they will give anyone a hard time with those questionable move selections.

And yes, I know that it wasn't the opponent that has Dragonite, but that isn't the role that Dragonite performs.

Lengthy video where you can see the actual, coded size of the Pokemon up to gen VI. Some of them are quite shocking.

Let's Go uses those sizes as well, by the way. As did Go, before they touched the scaling (gameplay reasons, but Lotad taking more space than Onix doesn't look good).

Edited by Eriorguez on Mar 19th 2019 at 4:17:57 PM