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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#160876: Oct 10th 2017 at 3:50:54 PM

Playing through Emerald. Defeated Norman. Yayz. It was tough, but not a battle I couldn't win in first try. Dat Slaking, tho.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#160877: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:03:35 PM

Slaking's Attack is higher than Mewtwo's Special Attack. Let that sink for a bit.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#160878: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:13:51 PM

Stopped in its tracks by literally anything with Protect.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#160879: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:16:05 PM

Because Protect is so common in the campaign.

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Oazard from Quebec City, Quebec, Canada Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#160880: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:21:25 PM

Torkoal, Pelipper, Marshtomp*, Aron*, Dustox, Volbeat and Anorith all learn Protect before level 32 and can be caught before Norman. smile

  • ORAS only.

edited 10th Oct '17 4:22:42 PM by Oazard

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#160881: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:22:51 PM

Mons that learn it by level up in Gen III: Mudkip line, Dustox, Pelipper, Aron line, Volbeat, Torkoal, Corphish line, Anorith line, Snorunt line, Shelgon

Of those, it's unbelievably easy to have Dustox or Pelipper by the fifth Gym. Dustox in particular learns Protect at level 17.

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#160882: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:23:00 PM

@ dRoy

Good going for you.

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#160883: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:23:30 PM

And most of those you probably won't use in your team for your playthrough, leaving only Anorith in Emerald, which is lost forever if you choose Lileep.

edited 10th Oct '17 4:24:53 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#160884: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:27:17 PM

If you know what Norman's packing, it's far from dumb to keep a Protector hanging around in your party.

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#160885: Oct 10th 2017 at 4:35:45 PM

It's also kind of a cheesy tactic to bring into the mid-point climax of the game against your own father.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#160886: Oct 10th 2017 at 6:41:10 PM

Listen, if my father is dumb enough to be packing a 'mon with Truant in Singles then I'm going to ram his ass into the ground without regrets.

Wake up, old man, ya dipshit.

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#160887: Oct 10th 2017 at 6:46:04 PM

Since we're talking about Norman and all, here's a tangentially related animated video that contains that fight.

I just wanted an excuse to share this.

edited 10th Oct '17 6:49:40 PM by Karxrida

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YamiiDenryuu doot from You know, that place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
doot
#160888: Oct 10th 2017 at 6:49:54 PM

I think you can get Dig by then as well. Though I think in my Sapphire run I ended up using my Mightyena... Slaking kept trying to use Focus Punch or whatever it is... I just kept attacking. P:

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#160889: Oct 10th 2017 at 6:54:06 PM

@Zelenal - Oh god, that post made me spit out my drink. [lol][tup]

I already had Gardevoir and Manectic by the time I faced Norman and I imagine it made the fight go a bit easier.

After successfully paralyzing Slaking, it was a lot easier. My pokemons did keep getting knocked out before paralyzing it and I had to use revive three times though. [lol]

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#160890: Oct 11th 2017 at 12:40:29 AM

Revives are THE one item that I feel is kind of cheap.

Personally I feel they(and the like) should only be usable outside battle. Not within. Or maybe have them unusable in trainer battles, like pokeballs. Even within the context of the game's world they feel kind of unfair.

[up]Hey are you using swellow at all? I remember it being surprisingly decent much of the game.

edited 11th Oct '17 12:50:02 AM by Vertigo_High

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#160891: Oct 11th 2017 at 3:29:30 AM

You know what would be nightmarish? A major enemy trainer that spams Max Revives. evil grin

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#160892: Oct 11th 2017 at 5:02:26 AM

A trainer with Revives, a mega and a Z move. Gimme that.

Anyway, Slaking needs Feint. And a Mega with the same stats, but Vital Spirit.

At the very least, it is better than Regigigas.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#160893: Oct 11th 2017 at 10:23:49 AM

Lol a guy just got mad salty because he couldn't beat megaeye. He even started stalling the timer then complained I was being cheap.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#160894: Oct 11th 2017 at 10:59:37 AM

@ dRoy

Good thing that the game only allows the trainer characters to only use potions, or that would be trouble.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#160895: Oct 11th 2017 at 3:14:59 PM

MIND = BLOWN

Disable is actually supposed to be the pokemon inducing sleep paralysis, as the Japanese name is the term used to refer to as such(kuro mind fact checking this?). Seems like a lot of pokemon who learn it level up are either able to use natural sleep inducing moves(jigglypuff, drowzee) or occult like since sleep paralysis was believed to be caused by supernatural creatures sitting on your chest or holding you down.

It also makes the sleep talk workaround it a nice case of Fridge Brilliance.

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Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#160896: Oct 11th 2017 at 3:52:50 PM

Bulbapedia tells me the JP name for Disable is "Temporary Binding".

Goddammit, Schezo...
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#160897: Oct 11th 2017 at 4:19:11 PM

[up]

Disable sounds more precise in my opinion.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#160898: Oct 11th 2017 at 5:41:51 PM

So this comic made me ponder.

You know what would be a mundane but absolutely frightening motivation for a Pokémon villain? Changing the Pokémon Center system so that the centers would charge the trainers for healing pokemons.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#160899: Oct 11th 2017 at 5:51:13 PM

Pfft. That's so unrealistic. Only a cartoon villain does that. No real person would even think about it.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#160900: Oct 11th 2017 at 6:34:11 PM

I honestly wouldn't mind. You pay for inns in basically every other RPG in existence and there's yet to be a Pokemon game where you're not rolling in money at basically any given point (barring certain circumstances).

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