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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#301: Nov 27th 2009 at 1:41:27 AM

I know it sounds a bit like Slowpoke, but:

Has the Sugimori artwork been updated for HG/SS?

Oh, it has.

edited 27th Nov '09 1:42:15 AM by Kinkajou

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#302: Nov 27th 2009 at 2:56:12 AM

I actually like the designs overall (Not just the sprites) were much more crazy and original than those of the first 251.

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#303: Nov 27th 2009 at 2:58:47 AM

Plus it gave the designers the chance to show their work.

By Gens III and Iv one could clearly see them mining mythology.

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#304: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:16:04 AM

So you're saying Pokemon like Makuhita, Zigzagoon and Swellow were actually good? You're weird. Gen 4 had more decent ones than Gen 3 by far, and taking into account nostalgia, had a comparable amount to the first 151 or the hundred after that.

But still. I could probably count the good Gen 3 designs on my hands (using the decimal system, I mean. Don't be sneaky and claim I could count 1024 if only I did it in binary).

edited 27th Nov '09 3:16:37 AM by Sabbo

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#305: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:17:35 AM

Your Mileage May Vary.

Dare I say it.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#306: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:21:08 AM

Uhh. Considering that Zigzagoon is one of my favourites? Yes.

Your Mileage May Vary.

edited 27th Nov '09 3:25:10 AM by PippingFool

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#307: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:22:37 AM

And I bet you're only around 15 years old, too.

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#308: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:25:04 AM

She probably is.

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#309: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:26:26 AM

I see nothing wrong with Flygon's family or Breloom. Sharpedo was a little uninteresting though.

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#310: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:29:03 AM

Oi, easy there, guys. Totally uncalled for, that was. Oh, I agree. Sharpedo. A Shark-torpedo. And it just looks laughable. Although, oddly, the TGC version looked more imposing. CGI, I guess.

edited 27th Nov '09 3:31:06 AM by catch_the_sun

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#311: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:29:37 AM

Breloom is passable. Flygon is slightly worse (although at least with this I can see why people could like it).

EDIT: Oh, and my comment about age was just to say that whoever finds Gen 3 to be the best set is looking through the nostalgia goggles of someone who got into Pokemon ~5 years after me.

edited 27th Nov '09 3:32:17 AM by Sabbo

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#312: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:31:02 AM

I thought Sharpedo went after young kids.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#313: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:32:08 AM

And I bet you're only around 15 years old, too.

Close, but no Cigar. (16)

Besides, raccoons are my favorite animals and I like Zigzgaoon's design, I'm sorry I don't find the completely awesome and original Voltorb to be very original but I happen to find a Pokemon outside the 1st-2nd generation to be interesting.

I thought Sharpedo went after young kids.

You're thinking of Hypno.

edited 27th Nov '09 3:33:07 AM by PippingFool

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#315: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:35:31 AM

Now to be fair, Every generation has it's Brilliant designs, it's not-so-good designs and the ones in between.

What those Pokemon are is a Your Mileage May Vary thing yourself.

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#316: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:35:48 AM

Ah yes.

Hypno, the Pedophile Pokemon.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#317: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:36:59 AM

I actually own that shirt.

Along with the Articuno and Cubone one.

I want the Stylised Lugia/Ho-oH ones naow.

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#318: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:38:43 AM

Note though that I'm claiming that the ratio between these three categories is weighed against Gen 3.

I think I'll go find a list of Gen 3 Pokemon and say which ones I think are particularly good, and which ones really aren't.

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#319: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:38:54 AM

I had to do a double take to see that a guy wore a Pokemon 151 shirt.

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TeChameleon Since: Jan, 2001
#320: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:42:01 AM

-*waves hand*

Every generation had its strong designs and its weak ones- and I say that as someone who was too old for this stuff when it first came out, so I'm not sure that nostalgia can really be blamed here :/

Combine that with Your Mileage May Vary, and you have a recipe for lots and lots of arguing. Although I still think that Meganium is rather silly looking.

For the record, after a quick flip through Slowflake's rants on the various generations, Gen III and IV are tied for the number of kind of stupid-looking 'mons- and both also have a respectable number of completely awesome looking ones as well. The first two generations don't seem to have quite as many dumb-looking mons, but they also don't have as many awesome ones, so I guess it balances out.

edited 27th Nov '09 3:46:17 AM by TeChameleon

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#321: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:43:38 AM

I mean come on it's a sauropod with a flower round its neck.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#322: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:43:54 AM

What those shirts are COOL! Plus the Cubone one is awesome.

Yeah Pokemon designs are a YMMV thing in itself, but saying and Entire Generation is bad for having designs that you don't like is a little silly. Even though I started my Pokemon collection with Red, I like Emerald more.

I prefer the Silly Suarapod with the Flower around it's neck to the overhyped, overrated, generic red Dragon which was typed with Flying instead due to DRAGON RAGE being the only Dragon move in Gen 1.

edited 27th Nov '09 3:48:13 AM by PippingFool

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#323: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:49:20 AM

Or the fact that Fire/Dragon and Water/Dragon are overpowered.

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PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#324: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:50:11 AM

Yeah.

That too.

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Sabbo Since: Jan, 2001
#325: Nov 27th 2009 at 3:51:35 AM

Torchic's line, except Torchic, is bad. Torchic is passable.
The Poochyena and Zigzagoon lines are bad.
The Wurmple lines are uncreative, but passable.
Ludicolo is bad.
The Taillow line is unoriginal; I may as well use Spearow or Pidgey.
I can't stand Wingull's line.
Ralts' line is good. Among my favorite pokemon, design-wise.
Surskit's line is bad. This, among many others, shows Gen 3's poor tendency to make evolutions look nothing like their previous form/s.
Makuhita's line is bland.
EDIT: Still listing more...

edited 27th Nov '09 3:53:08 AM by Sabbo


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