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Nov 20th 2009 at 11:48:56 PM

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Yeah, basically just a thread to talk about anything relating the the pokemon games.

First off, my dilemma. I love the Eevee evolution tree to pieces, and ever since Gen I I've always had an Eevelution on my team. Now that it is Gen IV there are finally enough Eevelutions to pick from to make a viable team, but unfortunately there is one too many. If I were to try to make a team only out of Eevelutions, which one should I drop?

in before eevee team not optimal. I don't care, I just want to have fun.

edited 19th Jun '12 9:59:03 PM by Tangent128

Longfellow Fractally long
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Nov 20th 2009 at 11:51:50 PM

If you're going on utility....well I'm no expert, but Flareon was never any good and Fire is mostly redundant with Ice. But if it's just for fun, well, I can't pick your least favorite Eeveelution. Raise seven and put one on standby if you don't want to choose.

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Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
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Nov 20th 2009 at 11:56:08 PM

Get Glaceon out, since Vaporeon does better.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:01:52 AM

Personally, I'd drop Umbreon. Vaporeon walls better, IMO.

edited 21st Nov '09 12:03:39 AM by Electivirus

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:02:42 AM

It's a decent tank though.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:04:46 AM

Vaporeon can tank AND attack. Albeit, it can't wall quite as well as Umbreon, but trying to raise a purely defensive Poke is a REAL chore.

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Longfellow Fractally long
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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:05:20 AM

Keep Vappy and Jolt in any case, they're always useful.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:10:31 AM

Definitely. The two most useful Eeveelutions, without a doubt.

Also, Espy is a close third.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:29:02 AM

If it were me doing this, I'd probably drop Leafeon.

I find Grass-type Pokemon to be very sub-optimal. Better to just give a better Pokemon or two a Grass move to cover any Water/Ground Pokemon you might come across and be done with it.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:36:53 AM

Leafeon has more survival power than Flareon, and a better movepool at that.

Jolteon could easily counterkill with Hidden Power or pass Substitutes at high speed, Cursebreon could power up and become a real pain backed with Toxic or Mean Look to stop Perish Song from being abused, that sort of thing.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:40:50 AM

I swear, Flareon must have raped and killed Satoshi Tajiri's parents when he was young.

Worst. Treatment. Ever.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:42:37 AM

Huh? What did Ash do to a Flareon?

Longfellow Fractally long
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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:42:39 AM

I guess you could map it out by specialty. You want Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Espeon. That's one defensive/cleric Pokémon and two special attackers. You lack a physical attacker, and Leafeon fits that role best. So what's left? Glaceon if you'd like yet another special attacker; Flareon if you want a second physical attacker; Umbreon if you want to stack on defenses (but defensive Pokémon are harder to play on an in-game team).

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:43:53 AM

Flareon has a terrible physical movepool, for starters. Even its newest additions are mostly special attacks like lava plume. Where's the Flare Blitz for it?!

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Longfellow Fractally long
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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:44:01 AM

Flareon keeps getting screwed generation after generation. Really it's a curse on all fire-types - they get this great Attack stat and no good physical moves, plus a really thin movepool overall.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:44:56 AM

LOLFIREFANG

Arcanine's pretty cool, though. Heatran too, if you count legendaries.

edited 21st Nov '09 12:45:31 AM by Electivirus

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:46:43 AM

Ho-oh looks to have avoided the Fire Curse with the almighty Sacred Fire, and Ninetails has a cool movepool with Flamethrower, Energy Ball, Dark Pulse, Nasty Plot, Extrasensory, Hypnosis, Quick attack, and Confuse Ray, among maybe a few other moves.

The thing is that Fire is the best offensive typing, but also one of the worst defensive typings, which is not helped by the domination of Water-types.

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Alkthash Was?
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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:47:41 AM

As much as I like Flareon I suppose Glaceon's ice type takes care of most of fire's advantages anyways. The only real problem now is steel type pokemon, but they all have a second type that can be attacked.

Longfellow Fractally long
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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:47:43 AM

Yeah, actually I guess fire-types are starting to get better...Infernape's nasty too and Moltres finally doesn't suck (I knew the chicken was good for something!). Entei is still worse than most normal Pokémon though.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:48:12 AM

Hmmmm. Without Flareon, you're pretty much stuck with HP Fighting to try and get a super effective hit on Steel types, right? And that's only if it isn't one of many Steel/Psychics...

If I was making the decisions, I would definitely keep Leafeon. It might not be as useful, but it's one of the most beautiful Pokemon ever. Just look at it in some 3D battles on Youtube! Man!

Not sure whom I'd drop. I never really cared for Jolteon, though...

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:49:13 AM

I like my Houndoom in Platinum. I put its good Attack to use with Crunch, and have Flamethrower for anything weak against Fire. Also, Flamethrower's animation makes it look like it's coming out of the Houndoom's eyes.

Awesome.

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Longfellow Fractally long
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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:49:34 AM

Isn't HP Fire the preferred Hidden Power for Espy?

Edit: Houndoom is fucking awesome. The pain from its flames never goes away, according the the Pokédex, which is badass. And Houndoom was always at least on the cusp of usability, which was more than Entei or Magcargo could say.

edited 21st Nov '09 12:52:21 AM by Longfellow

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:51:00 AM

All of the Eeveelutions suffer from "no moves" syndrome.

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:53:24 AM

Ya know, if it wasn't for my damn router not accepting my DS, I'd probably be still actually playing Platinum. And I'd have my freaking Mow Rotom, so that I'd finally be able to put away that damn Carnivine for good.

edited 21st Nov '09 12:53:40 AM by Matrix

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Nov 21st 2009 at 12:54:26 AM

My Yanmega. I <3 it.

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