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jemu99 It's a drop kick!! from Shadow-Earth... or is it Since: Jan, 2001
It's a drop kick!!
#1426: May 25th 2010 at 7:44:45 AM

Um... there goes me playing watered-down / casual Red Deck Wins variants...

Still finishing: a whole lot of shows from Fall 2013 and Winter 2014.
Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#1427: May 25th 2010 at 8:19:43 AM

I avoid these problems by not keeping track of what is played at tourneys.

well, that and my playstyle seems out of place in Zendikar.

edited 25th May '10 8:20:18 AM by Lanceleoghauni

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
#1428: May 25th 2010 at 3:09:25 PM

"You" in this case was Nick The Swing. I think everyone else has been pretty good about not playing obnoxiously overpowered decks. smile

I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1429: May 25th 2010 at 3:50:10 PM

Up to now, I've been able to avoid the temptation of obnoxiously overpowered decks partially because I see no shame in honourable defeat, and partially because I've been playing with the cards I've picked up from boosters and a friend in the past two months...meaning no Ravager Affinity, no Eldrazi (indeed, nothing from Rise of the Eldrazi, all we seem to have up here right now are the AU$55 starter packs), no Mindslavers, no efficiency calculations (how the hell do you do that, anyway?), no Blightning Aggro, no black lotuses (I should be so lucky), no skullclamps, and nothing else listed on the Game-Breaker page.

For today's game against Nick I'm actually foraying into the field of counting my cards as ones I don't have with a sheet of crib notes and Gatherer open, it'd never work in real life but this is the Internet. The planned one is a bit sligh-esque, it has to be said...it involves goblins, Chandra, a couple of dragons, and a garnish of lightning...there may be barrels of gunpowder issued to the goblins, and it's entirely possible I will have little to no control over what happens in any given turn by mid-match. (I suspect the secret to beating Mindslaver is to set it up so that who controls your turn is functionally irrelevant most of the time - plus, they're goblins, surging in with a barrel of high explosives under one arm and no regard for personal safety is entirely fluff-appropriate). That is all.

edited 25th May '10 3:57:12 PM by Count Dorku

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#1430: May 25th 2010 at 4:28:09 PM

I'm trying to gauge how much I'm willing to accept a themed deck that has a few glaring weaknesses.

Apparently, I didn't mind that in Pokémon, where to this day I insist on using my team of fearow, golem, pikachu, gyarados, alakazam, and venusaur to take on the Elite Four and Gary.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#1431: May 25th 2010 at 4:37:08 PM

it'd never work in real life
Actually, some Vintage tournaments do allow proxies  * and it's an accepted method when you're testing out a new deck and aren't sure if you want to buy the cards.

I guess it is.
CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1432: May 25th 2010 at 4:57:20 PM

Well, my 'crib notes' are actually a word document with "Spire Barrage: Chandra Nalaar. 3RR, planeswalker, list of abilities". It's card-accurate, though.

Nick: if you're here, let's do this.

If Nick isn't here, anyone fancy a quick game?

edited 25th May '10 5:23:54 PM by Count Dorku

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1434: May 25th 2010 at 5:44:03 PM

Well, he doesn't seem to be here right now. If you'd like a quick round to pass the time, I'm all shuffled up...

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1435: May 25th 2010 at 5:45:01 PM

Sure. I'll let you go first.

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1436: May 25th 2010 at 5:47:25 PM

OK. Drop a mountain and summon Goblin Arsonist. Go.

Life: 20
Lands: Mountain (t)
Creatures: Goblin Arsonist (1/1)
Hand: 2x Goblin Assault, Chandra, Goblin King, Mountain

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1437: May 25th 2010 at 5:50:50 PM

...ha, holy crap, this is a good hand.

I'll drop a swamp, tap it for Gnat Miser (reducing your maximum hand size by 1), and play a Spellbook. Your turn.


  • Life: 20
  • Hand:  5
  • Creatures: Gnat Miser
  • Artifacts: Spellbook

edited 25th May '10 5:51:24 PM by Blackmoon

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1438: May 25th 2010 at 5:53:07 PM

Drop another mountain. Go.

Life: 20
Lands: 2 mountains
Creatures: Gobbo Arsonist
Hand: Siege-gang Commander, 2x Goblin Assault, Chandra, Goblin King

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1439: May 25th 2010 at 5:54:36 PM

Hm. Can't pay for anything. Go.


  • Life: 20
  • Hand: 5
  • Land: 1
  • Creatures: Gnat Miser
  • Artifacts: Spellbook

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1440: May 25th 2010 at 5:56:16 PM

...Neither can I. Go.

Life: 20
Lands: 2 mountains
Creatures: Gobbo Arsonist
Hand: 3x Goblin Assault, Chandra, Goblin King, Siege-Gang Commander

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1441: May 25th 2010 at 5:57:06 PM

More of the same. Go.


  • Life: 20
  • Hand: 7
  • Land: 1
  • Creatures: Gnat Miser
  • Artifacts: Spellbook

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1442: May 25th 2010 at 5:59:12 PM

OK, another mountain and now we're cooking with charcoal! Tap all three for Goblin King and attack with the Arsonist, now 2/2. Do you intend to chump block, use an instant, or just take the hit?

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1443: May 25th 2010 at 5:59:47 PM

Christ goddamn fucking Goblin King.

I'll take it.

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1444: May 25th 2010 at 6:00:53 PM

OK, and that's the end of my turn. Go.

Life: 20
Lands: 3 mountains (3t)
Creatures: Goblin King, Gobbo Arsonist (t)
Hand: 3x Goblin Assault, Chandra, Siege-Gang Commander

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1445: May 25th 2010 at 6:03:18 PM

Phew. Just in time. Drop a swamp and pay 2 for Howling Mine.

Gentlemen... welcome to discard country.

Your turn.


  • Life: 18
  • Hand: 6
  • Land: 2 (tapped)
  • Creatures: Gnat Miser
  • Artifacts: Spellbook, Howling Mine

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1446: May 25th 2010 at 6:05:15 PM

Ah, the ol' Mine.

Drop another mountain, tap three for Goblin Assault. Then charge with the King and Arsonist. Blocking or letting through?

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1447: May 25th 2010 at 6:06:21 PM

I'll block the King. My poor Gnat Miser bites it.

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1448: May 25th 2010 at 6:17:19 PM

Sorry about the delay, my internet connection had an issue with the TV Tropes server and I had to restart...twice. Go.

Life: 20
Lands: 4 mountains (3t)
Creatures: Goblin Arsonist (t), Goblin King (t)
Enchantments: Goblin Assault
Hand: 2 more Goblin Assaults, Chandra, Siege-Gang Commander, Akki Coalflinger

edited 25th May '10 6:17:34 PM by Count Dorku

Blackmoon Since: May, 2009
#1449: May 25th 2010 at 6:20:25 PM

I'll play a Nezumi Bone-Reader. Go.


  • Life: 16
  • Hand: 6
  • Land: 2 (tapped)
  • Creatures: Nezumi Bone-Reader
  • Artifacts: Spellbook, Howling Mine
  • Graveyard: Gnat Miser

CountDorku Behold my legal acumen! from the depths of insanity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Behold my legal acumen!
#1450: May 25th 2010 at 6:25:07 PM

First, Assault generates a (functionally) 2/2 token with haste. Then I drop another mountain and send in Siege-Gang Commander, which also gives me three 2/2 tokens without haste. Then the Assault token, the King and the Arsonist go charging in. (Remember, these stats are with the Goblin King boost). Any blocking?


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