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eagleoftheninth No going back, no going home from where the north wind meets the sea Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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The Great and Wonderful
Oct 1st 2019 at 8:53:06 AM

Join me in marveling at the pleasantly straight angles and precision of a Chinese military parade, as streamed by the Washington Post.

Edited by TerminusEst on Oct 1st 2019 at 8:53:26 AM

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rollin' on dubs
Oct 1st 2019 at 8:52:47 PM

A gear post for those of you in the service or for those of you who want good gear:

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rollin' on dubs
Oct 1st 2019 at 9:58:02 PM

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30119/four-of-the-biggest-revelations-from-chinas-massive-70th-anniversary-military-parade

For the Tl;Dr - China is trying to ensure they have the means to kill - not just hurt - the US and it's allies in the pacific.

The ICBM ain't no thang, it's the hypersonic glide vehicle I'd be worried about.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Oct 1st 2019 at 10:24:30 PM

Is China actually capable of making a hypersonic glide vehicle?

That doesn't seem like the kind of thing the Russians would let them have and I doubt their ability to make one on their own.

Oh really when?
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The Great and Wonderful
Oct 2nd 2019 at 7:38:29 AM

China has slowly but surely pulled ahead of Russia in the high-tech sector. That’s not to say China has an exceptional capability or anything, they’re still a little lacking in high end manufacturing, it’s just that Russia is a fading power these days.

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Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:04:49 AM

China is a nation that has to import semi-conductors because it's incapable of building them, they've still got a bounty out for anyone who can build a ball-point pen.

High tech and China are two words that don't mix at all.

Oh really when?
Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:19:31 AM

[up] Like I said, that wasn’t meant to say that China is in good shape, just that Russia is in really bad shape.

For example, Russia has no domestic capability to produce the internals for night vision systems. They used to get those parts from places like France and Eastern Europe or buy them under the table from US companies, they now get them from China.

Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:20:11 AM

Even if China is still dependent on importing elements to semiconductors and are still years behind in tech, their semiconductor production is the fastest growing in the world. They've still got various issues in the production line, but they're slowly overcoming them.

Edited by TerminusEst on Oct 2nd 2019 at 8:21:51 AM

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The Great and Wonderful
Oct 2nd 2019 at 2:08:40 PM

The whole conversation reminds me of how during the Cold War, many NATO nations would buy US-built nuclear missiles, with the US owning and keeping custody of the nuclear warheads for them.

You could do a pretty interesting WWIII story playing off the dynamics of that, like doing a Colonel Ripper routine with a southern-fried US officer replacing Colonel Mandrake.

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Illegitimis non carborundum
Oct 2nd 2019 at 2:42:49 PM

I wonder if the future may see an inversion of Nixon's Triangle Doctrine, where the US reached out to China as a means of countering the Soviets. This time, it's the US and Russia coordinate to keep China in check.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Relationship Status: It's complicated
Oct 2nd 2019 at 2:53:42 PM

I assume that's a scenario in which the US and Europe have suffered a major and long term split.

Russia has to be viewed as hostile by any reasonable Western leader, in the foreseeable future.

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Porky
Oct 2nd 2019 at 2:53:52 PM

[up][up]What a cursed timeline that this is becoming a possibility

[up] The bad thing is that both Russia and China are hostile.

It would need a friendlier Russia, and a USA/ EU split would be horrid

Edited by KazuyaProta on Oct 2nd 2019 at 4:55:32 AM

Watch me destroying my country
Oct 2nd 2019 at 2:54:37 PM

Yeah, I doubt it. That seems like a highly unlikely outcome.

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A procrastination in of itself
Oct 2nd 2019 at 2:57:26 PM

Yeah it only makes sense if Trump is able to stay in office and push his Russia-worship onto whoever comes after.

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Watchman of the Apocalypse
Oct 2nd 2019 at 3:00:26 PM

I wouldn't put too much stock into China's tech. Not only do they import they keep trying to shortcut the development process with stolen tech which in reality doesn't quite work out that well. They have some decent kit in various areas but I would take the quality of any of their high-end stuff with a serious helping of salt.

The fact they have to import key materials also points out developmental issues on their end especially given their industrial capability and broad access to the materials to just make it themselves.

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"In distress", my ass.
Oct 2nd 2019 at 6:09:19 PM

On another note, 8000 mile race to save a wounded soldier's life.

From the article:

It took three aircraft, 24,000 gallons of fuel and about two dozen gallons of blood to sustain the soldier during the 8,000-mile non-stop journey back to the U.S., where he required specialized care.

A unit of blood is roughly a pint, with eight pints to a gallon, meaning roughly 190 units of blood to keep the soldier alive. surprised

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TuefelHundenIV Watchman of the Apocalypse from Wandering Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Watchman of the Apocalypse
Oct 3rd 2019 at 3:30:58 PM

And that right there folks is a prime example of the power of a strong logistics line.

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Oct 3rd 2019 at 3:38:23 PM

Never argue with a quartermaster, don't insult the engineer, banter lightly with catering and be nice to the entire medical corps; do this, and you will go far, young Padawan. wink

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Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
Oct 3rd 2019 at 9:12:01 PM

If a "commander" is the title of the commanding officer of a military unit, then what would be plausible titles for said unit's second-in-command? Apparently, "executive officer" is not commonly used for that sense, instead being usually an administrative position rather than a command one, and one that often serves as an assistant to the actual second-in-command.

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AFP The Great and Wonderful from The Pale Blue Dot Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
The Great and Wonderful
Oct 4th 2019 at 2:36:46 AM

Depends on the service and the size of the unit in question. My understanding is that the second in command on a US Navy ship is the Executive Officer, but I've heard "First Officer" used in many contexts, and in fact in the 19th century, the Royal Navy at least would just have a Captain and a whole bunch of Lieutenants numbered by seniority, starting with the First Lieutenant, followed by a Second Lieutenant, Third Lieutenant, and so on (in the book Lieutenant Hornblower, the titular character is the HMS Renown's Fifth Lieutenant, outranked by all of the officers aboard save for a midshipman.)

In the Air Force, a squadron's commanding officer is the Squadron Commander, followed by the Deputy Commander (in many units I've served in, that position was actually a civilian called a Deputy Director, with a Director being a civilian in charge of a squadron, something I've only seen stateside).

Other services will go with whatever works for them of course.

Edited by AFP on Oct 4th 2019 at 3:38:33 AM

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