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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#24676: Feb 4th 2017 at 11:09:52 PM

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
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#24677: Feb 5th 2017 at 7:54:46 AM

I say they know about Street Fighter because Cell was making some SF references when he beat Vegeta. :P

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#24678: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:38:07 AM

Vegeta did a shoryuken to Cell. Frieza did one to Vegeta (the king).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24679: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:46:37 AM

Cell also did the You Win, Perfect, and Here comes a new challenger quotes.

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#24680: Feb 5th 2017 at 12:19:51 PM

[up][up] Freeza's "Yatta" after killing King Vegeta is also a Street Fighter reference (it's what Chun Li's says during her victory poses throughout the franchise.)

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#24681: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:00:27 PM

All of these are gameplay references, however.

Like, just because you know 'FINISH HIM!!!' 'FATALITY' doesn't mean you have the slightest idea who Liu Kang is, either.

edited 5th Feb '17 8:00:48 PM by TobiasDrake

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Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#24682: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:05:25 PM

They have streamed themselves playing Street Fighter before, so while they not be masters of the Lore, they know more then the average person.

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#24683: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:24:24 PM

Not necessarily. I've played Street Fighter IV before yet I know basically nothing in regards to the lore.

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#24684: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:27:57 PM

Mortal Kombat excepted, fighting games aren't always that accessible in regards to their story. A lot of it takes place in supplemental materials, game manuals, character biographies, etc. rather than in the gameplay itself.

And Mortal Kombat is only a recent exception. They used to be just as bad.

For instance, the Shun Goku Satsu. It's that move Ryu used on Perfect Cell at the end of the video. The screen goes black, a bunch of strikes are seen in the darkness, and then it ends with Akuma/Dark Ryu standing over the defeated body of the foe. IIRC, it's a one-hit kill if it lands.

But what you don't know unless you actually read into the lore is that the reason it's a one-hit kill is that it murders the recipient by unleashing the karmic balance of their sins upon them. It doesn't matter how powerful you are, because the move is powered by your own evil. It's kinda like the Devilmite Beam in that regard.

However, it can be rendered completely ineffective by clearing one's mind of one's burden of guilt. It doesn't work against artificial lifeforms. It can and has been beaten by a regenerator. There are plenty of reasons for Cell to withstand the Shun Goku Satsu and come out victorious.

They used none of these, opting for "LOL CELL WINS JUST 'CAUSE."

edited 5th Feb '17 8:33:31 PM by TobiasDrake

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24685: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:46:23 PM

Cell doesn't feel guilt. Case closed.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24686: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:47:58 PM

I mean, explaining it kind of detracts from the already flat joke, doesn't it?

edited 5th Feb '17 8:48:46 PM by LSBK

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#24687: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:53:55 PM

[up]x3 To be fair, it's not something you can easily explain while trying to be funny. Seems like a cute Inside Joke if anything.

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#24688: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:23:35 PM

Technically, as we saw in Asura's Wrath and the Akuma DLC for Street Fighter V, the Shun Goku Satsu is less that, and more just you pummeling the shit out of your opponent upwards to 30 times as of V; it's just that those blows are also striking your soul as well as your body, so using it is the equivalent of beating the shit out of a person's very soul.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24689: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:28:01 PM

Cell has no soul. Case closed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24690: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:30:26 PM

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Well then, the Soul needs to learn how to dodge as much as Gohan does.evil grin

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#24691: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:32:08 PM

The point isn't whether it can be explained but the complete lack of f*cks given about it. It's reduced to a brief visual gag based on role-reversing Cell and Dark Ryu's positions in the special move, because the entire video is a completely shallow parody based purely on gameplay.

In short, there was absolutely no effort put into writing it and it shows, especially in contrast to the YYH and Yu-Gi-Oh clips.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#24692: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:34:11 PM

I mean, Asura managed to reverse the Shun Goku Satsu on Oni if we're counting that.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#24693: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:41:06 PM

And in V it's just a bunch of super fast punches but I hate that so meh.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#24694: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:50:58 PM

...It's a fighting game. I'm not sure why you're asking for jokes based around the obscure lore of the series instead of the gameplay that's the main attraction of the game and what everyone will be familiar with.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#24695: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:54:55 PM

Because if you're making a series parodying the characters, you should know who the characters you're parodying are. Otherwise you end up with flat jokes that don't work.

The lore of SF isn't that obscure. They could've certainly done better than having Ryu talk in nothing but exaggerated catchphrases, for instance.

It's especially noticeable for Team Four Star, because they're known for being the exact opposite of complacent. Heck, the application of obscure tournament rules from over a decade ago was an actual gag in the Yu Gi Oh video.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:56:42 PM by KnownUnknown

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24696: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:56:00 PM

I am only vaguely aware that SF even has lore.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24697: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:58:17 PM

I honestly don't think most people would care. Like, stuff like that can be nice little bonus for people who do, but it really shouldn't be the main draw of a little bit like this.

The Yu Yu Hakusho and Yu Gi Oh stuff works whether your intimately familiar with them or not because memes or the point trying to get across is obvious.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#24698: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:01:34 PM

Even if I weren't a fan of SF, I would've thought this was a step back.

Again, the big problem with this one is that it's one gag with little other developed humor to back it up - because they don't know what it is they're parodying, so they couldn't back it up with the kind of snappy character humor that they did with YGH and YYH.

The problem is in no way shape or form simply that there aren't any SF lore in-jokes, it's that there isn't much to the short in general and the humor is surprisingly poor for TFS' caliber.

Knowing the lore of SF was introduced as way of fixing that, because it's... well... it really is the most reliable way of fixing it. You don't adequately parody something if you don't bother to put in the legwork to know what it is. Even if the audience doesn't know what it is either. Hell, especially if the audience doesn't know what it is either.

Ironically, it's what keeps a parody from being niche. A good humorist knows what's funny about the source, why the average non-familiar person would find that funny as well, and knows how to introduce the joke to that person. It's one of the reasons why DBZA is so popular.

This, on the other hand, is actually less comprehensible if you know less about Street Fighter, because it's so focused on the surface details and gameplay and not the stuff with substance that if you, say, haven't seen the SGS before you wouldn't understand the final joke at all.

edited 5th Feb '17 10:11:22 PM by KnownUnknown

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24699: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:04:42 PM

TFS' humor is pretty hit or miss in general, actually. I don't find it surprising that it wasn't funny.

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#24700: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:10:29 PM

I think they're reliably funny - this just wasn't one that clicked, for a couple reasons. Hopefully any others they make are better.

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