I don't think anything about Super Saiyan 4 is "edgy". That sounds like a complete misuse of the phrase.
I'm not terribly fond of the idea - I prefer the tails, and eventually Super Saiyan, becoming redundant - and the design isn't perfect for Super Saiyan + Oozaru as a concept, but it also doesn't feel out of place in Dragon Ball and it can look pretty cool at times.
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and add that I will never be able to take it seriously due to Goku spontaneously sprouting pants when he assumes the form.
edited 3rd Feb '17 6:05:12 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Yeah that doesn't sound edgy at all. Ignoring that the black is there because it's the Saiyan's natural colour, the form is about as serious as any other transformation.
The edgy nineties is a western thing. It's silly to think Super Saiyan 4 is part of that trend.
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I don't like the magical clothes, but that's got less to do with the visual design and more with the terrible kid Goku shit GT was sticking to.
edited 3rd Feb '17 6:08:14 PM by Saiga
Yes, because the red palette swap of Goku and the blue palette swap of Super Saiyan look so much better...
Would you have preferred that Goku just stand there naked, with potentially a furry crotch? Because the people who make Rule 34 a thing would have been all over that, even more than they are now.
edited 3rd Feb '17 6:12:07 PM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Yes, haven't you seen the way that word is used?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I'd prefer they didn't pointlessly turn Goku into a kid and then age him up exclusively for their new Super Saiyan transformation, forcing them to make a call between magic pants or new strawberry-flavored monkey parts.
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It sort of is. Half the problem is on the fact that they de-aged Goku, the other half is on the fact that they decided Super Saiyan 4 automatically transforms you into an adult. And gives you magic pants.
Like, when Kid Goku turns Super Saiyan 3, he doesn't spontaneously become Naked Raditz.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.If they really wanted to bring back adult Goku, they should have just made it so that whatever bullshit magic let him become an adult for Super Saiyan 4 also let him stay an adult instead of becoming a kid again every time he reverts to base.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Being fanon makes its qualifications as a "real" explanation suspect.
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I mean, I've seen that used in that Redux thing as an explanation to explain Broly's Super Saiyan 4 form; the other Legendary forms are just mutated Grade III states.
Even though it was designed by Toriyama himself, and the thing's now canon due to the female Saiyan in Super that has the form...
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

I'm under contractual obligation to post youtube links to awesome scenes from video games everytime they're referenced in the slightest detail.
edit: goddamn, thread-topper in two threads in a row.
edited 3rd Feb '17 5:54:37 PM by Soble
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