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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24401: Jan 30th 2017 at 12:37:11 AM

Both Raditz and Vegeta refer to Oozaru as a Saiyan's "true" power (not just their strongest power), and it's how they got their reputation as a warrior race.

So if you're comparing 15000, 40000 and 180,000 to the Namekians only Nail holds up, and he was the only Warrior/Fighting-type Namekian on the planet. The Namekians are noted as having exceptionally powerful fighters by Vegeta.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24402: Jan 30th 2017 at 5:49:51 AM

So in other words, if the Namekians had had more warriors, they'd have been a little harder to wipe out (until Frieza himself took to the field at least).

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#24403: Jan 30th 2017 at 6:41:43 AM

So, Oozaru Vegeta was beyond Ginyu and second only to Freeza and his dad. Explains part of the power tripping.

Also, Oozaru nonwithstanding, Nail was the 4th strongest mortal in the Universe until Goku and Vegeta surpassed him later that afternoon. Neat.

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#24404: Jan 30th 2017 at 8:39:46 AM

I'd love to hear TFS' thoughts on DB Super 76. It's essentially "Krillin Owned Count - The Episode".

Krillin and Goku go to a forest of illusion on Roshi's suggestion (to get weed for Roshi. Literally, they are going to get a plant he's addicted to). The forest makes them see foes they have killed. Krillin sees all the people who killed him in the past and gets ptsd.

edited 30th Jan '17 8:39:56 AM by Ghilz

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#24405: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:26:22 AM

Well, addicted in the sense that he can't live without it.

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#24406: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:57:02 AM

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#24407: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:21:17 AM

Also, Oozaru nonwithstanding, Nail was the 4th strongest mortal in the Universe until Goku and Vegeta surpassed him later that afternoon. Neat.

Not quite the fourth. His battle power of 42,000 was on the low end of the Ginyu Force. Although we don't have exact battle powers for each individual member, we do know that the four who weren't Captain Ginyu were each between 40,000 and 60,000.

But it's still a hell of an accomplishment that Nail's battle power was within the margins for Frieza's elite band of impossibly-powerful mutants.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#24408: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:23:42 AM

I think Guldo was considerably weaker than the other three and was only on the team because of his psychic powers.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#24409: Jan 30th 2017 at 11:57:29 AM

So...

Base Saiyans < Namekians < Super Saiyans ?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24410: Jan 30th 2017 at 12:00:44 PM

We have no reason to assume standard Namekians are stronger than standard Saiyans.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#24411: Jan 30th 2017 at 12:14:37 PM

You know, speaking of Guldo, here's something I've wondered for a while now; who do you think would win in a fight between Guldo and Babidi?

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#24412: Jan 30th 2017 at 12:21:05 PM

Babidi would just take control of Guldo.

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#24413: Jan 30th 2017 at 12:33:02 PM

Yeah, I'm going to second that outcome. Babidi wins because the fight never occurs.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#24414: Jan 30th 2017 at 12:34:17 PM

Does Babidi have any stat resistances against steamrollers?

edited 30th Jan '17 5:22:46 PM by Soble

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#24415: Jan 30th 2017 at 5:09:56 PM

Goku could tank a car and a gun when he was just a kid. I'm pretty sure Babidi would tank a steamroller about that well.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24416: Jan 30th 2017 at 5:34:04 PM

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Babidi's not Goku. We have no evidence that he has that level of durability.

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#24417: Jan 30th 2017 at 5:59:46 PM

The only thing we really know about Babidi's battle power to my knowledge is that he's weak enough for Piccolo to bisect him with a single blow.

But that doesn't really tell us much. There is no shame in being weaker than Piccolo. At that point in the series, the number of entities in the mortal universe that fall into that umbrella are "Literally everyone not capable of becoming a Super Saiyan."

edited 30th Jan '17 6:00:57 PM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24418: Jan 30th 2017 at 6:04:45 PM

Pretty much.

We don't know how he fares against human bullets because the weakest person to attack him is the most powerful Namek in existence.

Simply put, we don't know where Babidi lies on the Physical capability department.

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#24419: Jan 30th 2017 at 6:14:45 PM

I'd love to hear TFS' thoughts on DB Super 76. It's essentially "Krillin Owned Count - The Episode".

MasakoX has put up a review. He was amused that the episode has made the idea of Ghost Nappa canon.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#24420: Jan 30th 2017 at 6:37:48 PM

With that realization, Super is officially my favorite Dragonball-anything in the past 10 years, excluding Battle of Gods.

They have to have somebody feeding them info because the fanservice is too onpoint.

edited 30th Jan '17 6:40:56 PM by Soble

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#24421: Jan 30th 2017 at 6:57:03 PM

There's no way Toei is paying attention to DBZA, though. It's a completely different part of the fanbase. That speak a different language.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24422: Jan 30th 2017 at 7:00:45 PM

They pay enough attention to monetize the stuff they make. But, I agree, they're probably not on their radar for actual things to use as content.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#24423: Jan 30th 2017 at 7:02:30 PM

IIRC the ghost Nappa was the largest ghost Krillin faced, and there was more emphasis on him than Tambourine or Freeza.

It's eerie.

edited 30th Jan '17 8:32:24 PM by Soble

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#24424: Jan 30th 2017 at 8:29:55 PM

[up]Which is funny since Krillin was one of the few to actually survive the fight with Nappa. tongue

I think I've mentioned it in the main Dragon Ball thread, but I'm not a big fan of the direction they took Krillin here and in the Resurrection F arc.

edited 30th Jan '17 8:33:54 PM by Lionheart0

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#24425: Jan 30th 2017 at 9:22:30 PM

Takahata 101 was hired to do his Nappa voice for Dragon Ball Xenoverse. You can be Ghost Nappa as your Create A Character. I have no doubts that Toei knows about Ghost Nappa.

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