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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#23976: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:52:32 PM

It's bribes to keep him out of the Budokais... Super should use that damnit.

edited 13th Jan '17 3:52:56 PM by Memers

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23977: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:57:01 PM

Could Chichi have beat Satan if she entered the tournament before Cell?

StormKnight Since: Nov, 2010
#23978: Jan 13th 2017 at 3:57:29 PM

Watched a little bit of the stream after the movie and question of whether the divorce would be canon in the Abridged episodes came up. They said no as the movies are never canon.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23979: Jan 13th 2017 at 5:24:45 PM

Thankfully, Goku manages to keep his family in money by receiving a generous gift from Satan.

I assume you enjoyed writing that sentence as much as we all enjoyed reading it.

Unfortunately, it looks like Toriyama is going for a Perpetual Poverty angle (sans Goku's occasional act as a farmer, which is decidedly NOT playing to his strengths).

Then again, it's a known fact that the Z warriors don't want the attention that would come with their ridiculous strength, and these guys suck at holding back even when they try.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23980: Jan 13th 2017 at 5:31:39 PM

I mean, Goku being a farmer has been a thing since as long as Tarble has been a thing.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#23982: Jan 13th 2017 at 6:57:37 PM

Is that where the joke in Lord Slug comes from when Goku hurls the Spirit Bomb and goes, "Eat this melon farmer!"

At least I think it was Lord Slug.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#23983: Jan 13th 2017 at 7:15:14 PM

That was against Turles...

"This is Christmas, melon farmer!"

edited 13th Jan '17 7:16:21 PM by randomness4

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#23984: Jan 13th 2017 at 9:14:45 PM

Is he even a good melon farmer? Does he know anything about growing melons?

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#23985: Jan 13th 2017 at 9:35:07 PM

Could Chichi have beat Satan if she entered the tournament before Cell?

Based on her performance in Dragonball and the Z filler where she actually had a Ki aura, yes.

The flying axe and head beam when she was 12 was probably enough to beat Satan now that I think about it.

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#23986: Jan 13th 2017 at 9:47:20 PM

I mean, she probably would have anyway, considering the fact Mr. Satan was born in the same year Goku was.

Edit: Sorry, thought you were implying something else with that last bit.

edited 13th Jan '17 9:48:13 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23987: Jan 13th 2017 at 9:57:29 PM

Dinosaur killing tools probably wouldn't be allowed given that they're lethal weapons.

edited 13th Jan '17 9:58:05 PM by Arha

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#23989: Jan 13th 2017 at 10:59:13 PM

Given that Satan is the strongest human who doesn't use ki and we have no indication that Chi-chi uses it, probably not.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23990: Jan 14th 2017 at 2:48:47 AM

The first is a fan descriptor, though. And you only need to look at pre-ki control Videl to know that is wrong.

Chichi is about as strong as Saiyan arc Roshi. She would most likely wreck Satan.

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#23991: Jan 14th 2017 at 6:44:12 AM

I'll need to see how many buses she can haul before I'm certain.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23992: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:02:11 AM

Huh, people do tend to overlook that Videl is (or at least was, who knows now) stronger than Satan don't they? Including myself.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#23993: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:06:52 AM

Was she? What's the most impressive thing she did?

I remember her jumping from her plane and punching way above her weight class, but that's about it.

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#23994: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:26:39 AM

[up]So, exactly the same as Satan?Though I don't even remember Satan being able to jump from planes. Anyway, Gohan mentioned at one point she was stronger than him, though she didn't realize it. We have never seem much of either, but the information we do have is about Videl being the better fighter.

edited 14th Jan '17 9:27:53 AM by Heatth

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#23995: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:52:09 AM

I mean, Satan:

  • pulls buses
  • takes a backhand from Cell that launches him into the side of a mountain
  • gets a punch in the face from Buu
  • disappears while charging at Van Zant

Videl:

  • punches big muscled dudes because Muscles Are Meaningless, and not necessarily humongous opponents like Bacterian or Major Metallitron
  • refused to go down against Spopovich
  • leapt from her plane (I don't know how far)

The only comparison is how much weight Hercule is pulling vs how hard it would be for someone Videl's size to knock down a guy Spopovich's voice. Calculations I'm not going to do or research because hah hah f'ck no.

But without doing any of that, I would think given how hard Goku and 18 were trying to restrict their strength, and we saw how hard they were hitting (and Vegeta even broke the machine) then getting backhanded by Cell even with minimal effort and surviving is still fairly impressive.

edited 14th Jan '17 10:00:58 AM by Soble

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#23996: Jan 14th 2017 at 9:55:48 AM

Well you see, Cell can perfectly suppress his power. Because he's perfect. Are Goku and 18 perfect? I don't think so.

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#23998: Jan 14th 2017 at 10:32:22 AM

[up][up][up]I am pretty sure half of Satan's feats you listed are filler, and I don't trust Toei to be consistent with anything. And nothing ever shown Videl couldn't do all those things. The two characters were never directly compared or fully put to testnote . But Videl have been explicitly said to be stronger than Satan by someone who can sense ki, so that is the best info we got.

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#24000: Jan 14th 2017 at 12:52:34 PM

IIRC by Videl's own admission in the dub she knew she was stronger than him.


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