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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#23477: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:38:27 PM

He would've died shortly after...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23478: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:47:43 PM

@Rob

On Lunch, see the thing is Toriyama did exactly what he should have with her. He wrote her out.

The last time the human treatment was brought up, and I argued that the characters weren't owed anything, it was brought up that Toriyama should have written them out instead of keeping them around if they're not going to contribute. And I didn't get a chance to respond (it's hard to keep up with the thread when I am dealing with work stuff), but I definitely agreed with that.

Launch was always a very minor character. If she had stuck around, she'd have nothing to contribute and it'd be really obvious that she has no more reason to be there. At least the human fighters are able to provide exposition and commentate on current events.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#23479: Jan 1st 2017 at 7:55:01 PM

[up][up][up] Not quite. He kills everyone on Earth then goes to Namek and dies.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23480: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:02:19 PM

Yeah but that's not really about the fight on Earth at that point.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#23481: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:03:33 PM

True.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#23482: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:18:23 PM

wen broly part 2. Do we have to wait a year?

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#23483: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:24:08 PM

Kaiser's not saying anything on Twitter so I have no fucking clue. This is why you don't say exactly when an episode comes up.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#23484: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:25:07 PM

except vegeta

True. If you remove Vegeta from that fight, nobody dies.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#23485: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:29:57 PM

Nappa would still be there...but instead of lasting long enough to kill Piccoro, he ends up with half his head cut off.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23486: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:38:16 PM

On Lunch, see the thing is Toriyama did exactly what he should have with her. He wrote her out. The last time the human treatment was brought up, and I argued that the characters weren't owed anything, it was brought up that Toriyama should have written them out instead of keeping them around if they're not going to contribute. And I didn't get a chance to respond (it's hard to keep up with the thread when I am dealing with work stuff), but I definitely agreed with that.

Yeah. That's kinda something I can agree with as well. It's irking to me that he keeps Oolong and Puar around when they are no longer relevant in any way, shape or form.

Launch was always a very minor character. If she had stuck around, she'd have nothing to contribute and it'd be really obvious that she has no more reason to be there. At least the human fighters are able to provide exposition and commentate on current events.

Well, this is where it would have been nice if he'd considered making her a martial artist as well. That would have given her a purpose in early dragon ball (and a female fighter before Chi-Chi). You could still get big jokes out of her switching personas through sneezing, with blue Launch being rather harmless, while blonde Launch fights with her fists instead of using guns (which are 100% useless in dragon ball anyway, as even at that point, Goku was essentially bulletproof, and even Krillin and Roshi could tank them pretty well).

But he didn't, and when she lost her value, he got rid of her. Smart move, since she was never more then a joke character. Maybe it's because I hate characters who are nothing more then jokes (despite liking Launch) that it bothers me so much that she's gone.

...I think I lost my train of thought here. I'm gonna let Saiga tell me why I'm wrong EXPLAIN HIS OPINION again, and see if I can get back on track here.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23487: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:42:21 PM

[up][up][up] Hah! Well played.

[up] Lunch as a martial artist just feels kind of odd. I definitely wouldn't see the normal Lunch doing so, she has no real reason to be interested in that.

edited 1st Jan '17 8:48:09 PM by Saiga

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#23488: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:49:11 PM

I've never found drama or characterization in Dragon Ball to be a strong point, so I prefer when the series was mostly focused around being funny rather than taking the conflicts seriously.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#23489: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:54:19 PM

About Launch; she always showed up for every single tournament along with all her other friends, yet when the Z portion happened, she's only ever mentioned all of once by Krillin, who says she's still chasing after Tien. Besides that she's never mentioned or shows up again for anything else beyond anime filler and the OVA with Tarble; hell, she doesn't even show up for Bulma's birthday party, despite being her only real female "friend" before she started to hang around Chichi due to their husbands, nor the tournament with Universe 6. It's like, either she had a falling out with everyone due to something and was just forgotten about, which is weird since they allowed Vegeta to hang around them, or she's permanently in her blonde form and just doesn't care about anyone beyond Tien.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23490: Jan 1st 2017 at 8:58:53 PM

She doesn't need to be permanently in blonde form. She just needs to have lost contact with the group, they don't even seen to have phones in the manga.

Just look at how easily it is for Tenshinhan or Goku to go for years without contacting their friends.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#23491: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:07:05 PM

I mean, didn't Bulma find out about the second Time Machine in the Android Saga, because someone called her about it?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#23492: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:12:11 PM

I don't think that's what he meant about "not having phones"...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23493: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:13:19 PM

They were in a ship at the time. And I think she called them.

But yeah, their lack of phones is a thing, since Videl once saved the day by actually having one.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#23494: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:15:26 PM

Wasn't she back at her house when that happened though?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23495: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:24:49 PM

Yeah. She was at her house, and called them while they were flying in a ship. They were moving Goku at the time after the fight with 17 and 18.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#23497: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:33:40 PM

Hell, doesn't Vegeta have a cellphone now?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23498: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:34:38 PM

Right. She (Videl) had a mobile and no one else did.

Bulma called from her house phone (during the Cell Saga) and got Trunks and company while they were flying Goku to a new spot to recover.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#23499: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:44:05 PM

Now I'm imagining what everyone's ringtones would be. Krillin's, we already know, is from One Piece.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23500: Jan 1st 2017 at 9:44:20 PM

[up][up][up] That's Super adding modern technology, though, during the time period where Lunch is missing, they're using landlines.

edited 1st Jan '17 9:44:27 PM by Saiga


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