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#23226: Dec 26th 2016 at 5:21:22 PM

Although TFS makes an effort to actually include movie stuff in the series and try to fit the movies in, there's really only so much they can do.

Revenge of Cooler is special in that regard for not just having the same issues fitting in as its original counterpart, but ALSO an added bonus of an Abridged-exclusive continuity hole. Cooler's rationale for sparing Goku's pod retcons the Bardock special where it was simply, "Because I'm a prick!"

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#23227: Dec 26th 2016 at 5:29:05 PM

It's Cooler's Revenge people; the sequel was called Return of Cooler.

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#23228: Dec 26th 2016 at 6:11:48 PM

[up][up][up] Sadly that's the norm for the internet nowadays. These forums have been getting worse about it lately too sadly.

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#23229: Dec 26th 2016 at 6:28:41 PM

[up][up] The abridged version is actually titled Revenge of Cooler. (The sequel is titled Cooler 2: The Return of Cooler's Revenge: The Reckoning, but that title is too long, so Return of Cooler it is.)

edited 26th Dec '16 6:33:03 PM by thok

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#23230: Dec 26th 2016 at 8:41:29 PM

Even the for movies that could fit, you'd need to change things. to keep it all within the manga's canon.

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#23231: Dec 26th 2016 at 8:46:49 PM

I'm reminded of a video that Masako X did on the subject of how to make the movies canon with the main(actual) series and the changes made to fit such. Him being the voice of Goku for DBZA allows this on a technicality!

edited 26th Dec '16 8:51:35 PM by GethKnight

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#23232: Dec 27th 2016 at 12:51:58 AM

I cannot wait for Bio-Broly simply to see what they're going to name it. If they don't give it some kind of silly overly long 70's Exploitation Film name like Broly III: The Revenge of The Undead Alien Clone (With Some Magic, Apparently)! I'll be highly disappointed.

edited 27th Dec '16 12:52:37 AM by KnownUnknown

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#23233: Dec 27th 2016 at 6:03:15 AM

Any idea when it'll be out on Youtube ? Because I can not get their freaking player to even start.

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#23234: Dec 27th 2016 at 6:24:05 AM

Probably in a day or two...

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#23235: Dec 27th 2016 at 8:15:08 AM

I cannot wait for Bio-Broly simply to see what they're going to name it

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#23236: Dec 27th 2016 at 8:19:35 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up][up] You're wrong and heres why...

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#23237: Dec 27th 2016 at 10:05:30 AM

As far as the movies go, I like how Xenoverse handled them, with the movie so more or less all being alternate universes. Like, in one universe, instead of Goku getting a heart virus, he has to contend with Cooler invading earth.

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#23238: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:20:54 PM

Popping in again to pose an interesting question that's been on my mind after seeing snippets of Krillin and Android 18's interactions on DBZA (the last of which included 18 silently promising to "rock [Krillin's] four-foot world" if they survive... which they obviously will, given the source material): How do you think DBZA would depict their relationship after the post-Androids/Cell Arc Time Skip? Something tells me that Krillin's marriage to 18 (... or maybe she'd change her name back to "Lazuli"?) would spell the end to most if not all of his Butt-Monkey-ness.

edited 28th Dec '16 12:21:03 PM by MarqFJA

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#23239: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:25:56 PM

Eh, I doubt they're going to be like, "Android 18 was the heavenly grace that fixed Krillin's entire life and made him stop failing so hard!"

Like, the most noteworthy thing he does in the Buu arc is get taken out by Dabura's bodily fluids. If that's not a Krillin Owned, I don't know what is.

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#23240: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:28:11 PM

That's like saying that Vegeta almost died to Magetta's bodily fluids.

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#23241: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:28:39 PM

It might.

At the very least, they'd probably have to create a YAMCHA OWNED count.

Which to be fair, is something I imagine they've wanted to do for a while now.

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#23242: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:31:05 PM

There's still AT LEAST three moments of Krillin Owned scenes in the Buu Arc:

1) The Aforementioned Dabura Spit

2) Trying to fight Super Buu in a filler scene only to get one-shot

3) Failing to stop Kid Buu in the Otherworld for a filler scene.

If they choose to use filler anyways, which I mean...I feel like they will because the Buu Arc actually has some really good filler to use, like Dabura in Heaven, the extended Great Saiyaman arc, the Vegito stuff.

Oh, and there's also Broly whacking Krillin after his Big Damn Heroes moment in Second Coming.

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#23243: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:33:43 PM

[up][up][up]You really need the difference in mockability between the two situations explained?

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#23244: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:49:27 PM

Krillin getting stoned by Dabura's spit isn't even slightly worthy of a Krillin Owned Count. For one, it happens to Piccolo too, and for two, it is explicitly Dabura's greatest and most dangerous technique.

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#23245: Dec 28th 2016 at 12:55:15 PM

By that logic Frieza blowing him up shouldn't have counted either since Frieza took Piccolo down a second before.

The Krillin Owned Count is just Krillin being humilited. How and why it happens is clearly irrevelvant to them.

And literally getting spat on and petrified definitely counts.

edited 28th Dec '16 12:56:30 PM by LSBK

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#23246: Dec 28th 2016 at 1:01:55 PM

Also note that I called it the most noteworthy thing Krillin does.

Piccolo trains Goten and Trunks in the RoSaT, tries to buy time from Super Buu, and helps Gotenks fight Super Buu in what limited capacity he's capable of.

Literally the only thing Krillin does in the arc is get taken out by Dabura's spit. That is his sole contribution to Majin Buu's story. He is as much a part of the Buu arc as Yamcha was of the Saiyan arc.

edited 28th Dec '16 1:02:59 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23247: Dec 28th 2016 at 1:03:25 PM

... I wasn't thinking of the Krillin Owned Counter when I made my previous post, actually. More like, general Butt-Monkey-ness, like Krillin not getting any respect for killing all but one of the Saibamen with just one attack (whereas Piccolo — who at the time was still technically a villain who simply had a common enemy with the heroes in Vegeta and Nappa — gets praised for killing the one he missed), or nobody believing him about him getting kissed (on the cheek) by 18, and so on so forth.

edited 28th Dec '16 1:04:00 PM by MarqFJA

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#23248: Dec 28th 2016 at 1:14:53 PM

I don't see how it adds anything the KOC doesn't already cover.

edited 28th Dec '16 1:17:19 PM by VeryMelon

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#23249: Dec 28th 2016 at 1:15:57 PM

Eh, I still wouldn't want anything to really change in that regard. It'd be really shallow of the other characters to abruptly alter their behavior towards Krillin because he married 18. Having everyone give mad props to Krillin for his trophy of a woman-object would pretty much reverse all the goodwill TFS has gotten by treating 18 as an actual person with thoughts and feelings of her own and giving her some agency in her relationship with Krilln.

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#23250: Dec 28th 2016 at 1:24:06 PM

You talk as if that wasn't already the case. Like, 18 didn't look at him after everything was said and done and go "Well, I have nothing better to do, might as well shack up with this midget bald guy". She told him that trying to wish her back to normal and removing her (and 17's) bomb wasn't enough to win her heart but that she did appreciate the gesture.

Even if Toriyama called her "Krillin's reward" that doesn't change that in the actual story she's never actually treated like that and he still has to build up a relationship with her.

edited 28th Dec '16 1:24:54 PM by LSBK


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