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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23201: Dec 26th 2016 at 12:45:57 PM

wild mass guessAt the end they give him a carrot and that calms him down, because that's all he really wanted.wild mass guess

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#23202: Dec 26th 2016 at 12:49:38 PM

Or a Carrot Cake...even better.

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#23203: Dec 26th 2016 at 12:52:00 PM

Broly is actually mad at Monster Carrot.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23204: Dec 26th 2016 at 1:15:48 PM

So are some of the movies canon to this series?

Like, obviously Christmas Tree of Might and the second Bardock movie aren't, but what about Cooler or Dead Space?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23206: Dec 26th 2016 at 1:39:03 PM

You mean abridged specifically, right? Why would you care? This is a joke series and they'll happily break continuity, canon, whatever for a joke.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23207: Dec 26th 2016 at 1:40:44 PM

Eh, as we've gone over at length, for better or worse, a lot of people don't consider this a joke series.

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#23208: Dec 26th 2016 at 1:43:18 PM

Dead Zone is just a script Krillin made.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#23209: Dec 26th 2016 at 1:48:19 PM

You'd think Dead Zone would be canon, but it introduces Gohan to Krillin and Goku meets with Bulma and Roshi, whereas in hte series proper they say it's been years since they've seen him.

Cooler would fit in during the three years where Goku it training for the Androids, but he has a hard time turning super saiyan, whereas in the series he had already mastered it by the time he returned to Earth. Also Gohan has a tail. I don't know if it growing back makes it non-canon or not, it's just weird.

There are two films that could fit into canon without any effort. The first is Bojack, which takes place during the time skip between the Cell Games and the Buu Saga. You just need to concede that Trunks visited after killing the Androids and Cell in his timeline. The second is Wrath of the Dragon, which fits perfectly after the end of the Buu Saga, but before Super.

Oh, canon to THIS series. Hell if I know.

edited 26th Dec '16 1:49:00 PM by WillKeaton

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23210: Dec 26th 2016 at 1:48:53 PM

[up][up]Yeah, but is it an actual script in-universe he wrote and pitched to Nappa?

edited 26th Dec '16 1:49:30 PM by BaconManiac5000

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23211: Dec 26th 2016 at 3:08:32 PM

Bojack doesn't fit because Gohan saw Goku in that movie (when he says in the Boo arc he hadn't seen Goku since the Cell Games).

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#23212: Dec 26th 2016 at 3:13:15 PM

Cooler's brought up in the main series once or twice I think?

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#23213: Dec 26th 2016 at 3:20:20 PM

Nah.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#23214: Dec 26th 2016 at 3:41:07 PM

DBZA I mean.Once in Freeza's wiki vandalism,once by Freeza himself,and the Bardock special.

Though he's not really the abridged movie Cooler.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23215: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:22:55 PM

[up]X4

While Goku did basically give the rules of the afterlife the finger and show up, Gohan was pretty messed up from him beating, and Goku was only there for a second. Plus, I'm not sure if he really saw him saw him. He really just heard his dad's words (and in the sub version, Bojack has no clue what hit him, as opposed to him verbally name dropping Goku in the dub).

I see it as Gohan feeling his dad's return in the Buu arc is him really coming back (even if only for a day) as opposed to his done in one hit appearance in Bojack.

That's purely my interpretation though. Plus, I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna consider Bojack canon no matter what, because I like it, despite not being particularly revolutionary as movies go.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23216: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:25:36 PM

You can handwave any contradiction if you try hard enough. But if you have to come up with the explanation yourself, it's a contradiction.

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#23217: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:28:01 PM

You know, even though the series itself possesses contradictions, so it really wouldn't be any different than what the English dub did to deal with the contradiction of Cell surviving his head getting obliterated.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23218: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:29:29 PM

Well what the English dub did was actually change what happened, that's not the same as providing an explanation to a contradiction. They removed the contradiction entirely.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23219: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:30:13 PM

I did say it was my own interpretation.

I considered a reprisal, but realized this isn't something worth starting a debate over.

I just don't consider it enough of an issue to invalidate the entire movie.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#23220: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:35:30 PM

Yeah, I don't consider such tiny contradictions as reasons to say it absolutely cannot fit. If we can ignore Cell's head getting blown off we can ignore much smaller things.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23221: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:37:50 PM

I figure "nothing happened during this time" is a bigger contradiction than Cell's situation which is technically not contradictory ("I can regenerate from anything with my nucleus intact" does not mean he can only regenerate with the nucleus)

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#23222: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:37:52 PM

Revenge of Cooler has a hard time being canon in the DBZ Abridged universe, just because of Icarus.

The only time Icarus shows up in non-movie abridged episodes is during the fight with Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga, where Icarus is implied to be dead; if Revenge of Cooler is canon, it either takes place before that fight (which doesn't make sense, since Freeza wouldn't be dead), or Icarus somehow comes back to life.

I guess that would work if Vegeta actually did accidentally kill Icarus during the Saiyan saga, and then Icarus was brought back to life by the "Bring back everybody killed by Freeza's men" wish. But there's still issues since Piccolo's minion jokes imply that Revenge of Cooler is in the same continuity as Lord Slug and Christmas Tree of Might, and Christmas Tree of Might just adds more confusion to the whole Icarus issue and is canonically "so non-canon it hurts".

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23223: Dec 26th 2016 at 4:44:15 PM

Yeah, "nothing happened"; Bojack and his gang were only around for what amounted to one night, did barely anything of note beyond killing four people who weren't even named, and were immediately all slaughtered once Gohan ascended to Super Saiyan 2. Barring Koga who got killed by Trunks.

Really, out of all the movies, Cooler's Revenge, Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, Bojack Unbound, Wrath of the Dragon, and maybe Broly - The Second Coming, are able to fit within the timeline with the least amount of difficulties.

edited 26th Dec '16 4:45:35 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23224: Dec 26th 2016 at 5:04:39 PM

"Nothing happened" - proceed to explain a series of events that happened.

The Boo arc happened in three days. The Cell Games happened in one. etc

Second Coming can't fit either, giving that First Coming doesn't fit, Videl knows about Super Saiyan and the Dragon Balls which only happens once the Boo arc is already underway, and Goten knows Goku.

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#23225: Dec 26th 2016 at 5:19:54 PM

I feel like sometimes we spend too much time and effort on proving how incorrect we or aspects of the show are. We're all fans here, right? Even if we don't always keep the facts in mind, or choose to ignore or embrace a plot hole or disjointed movie, yeah?

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