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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23151: Dec 25th 2016 at 6:22:02 PM

Well, he and his friends (and Vegeta) are going to save the day...barely, but still.

edited 25th Dec '16 6:22:26 PM by HandsomeRob

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#23152: Dec 25th 2016 at 6:29:44 PM

He apparently really doesn't like Pilaf in dis world...

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#23153: Dec 25th 2016 at 7:46:05 PM

On top of Vegeta being in top form throughout, I also enjoyed that they made it clear that this is taking place in the lead up to the Cell Games, with Goku checking in on Cell and Vegeta deliberately blowing him off.

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#23154: Dec 25th 2016 at 7:54:02 PM

I loved Goku checking in on Cell and Tao.

I also loved how he thought Pilaf might have been the culprit.

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#23155: Dec 25th 2016 at 7:55:40 PM

Biggest laugh was (Princess) Trunks being promised to Broly.

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#23156: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:07:58 PM

I'm glad they're mature about Broly's portrayal but the real test is after he transforms

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#23157: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:10:12 PM

Well, we'll have to wait a week to see that.

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#23158: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:20:14 PM

That "Kakarrot" scream was practically indistinguishable from the original...

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23159: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:30:37 PM

The thing I never got about Broly and Paragus's survival in the movie was how neither Frieza nor Cooler noticed Broly's bubble in the debris. Or bothered to use a Scouter. Or how a power level of 10000 was enough to survive Frieza's Supernova. Or how they had enough air to survive. Or how they could get to a planet without a spaceship. Or how a literal baby could survive without food.

edited 25th Dec '16 8:31:15 PM by unnoun

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#23160: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:36:12 PM

He probably left while the planet was still exploding...

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23161: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:43:29 PM

I can buy Broly as an adult, in his Legendary Super Saiyan form, being fast enough to make a spaceship unnecessary.

He'd still need to breathe and eat, but. Purely in terms of distance covered, it might be viable.

As a baby with a power level lower than adult Vegeta, Bardock, Cui and Guldo, much less Burter.

Like. It could take centuries.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23162: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:46:25 PM

Toriyama has no sense of scale, even Kami's old ship was significantly FTL. That part doesn't bother me.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#23163: Dec 25th 2016 at 8:55:41 PM

I meant Freezer...

He could've gotten bored watching the planet exploding and left before seeing the debris.

edited 25th Dec '16 8:56:09 PM by randomness4

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#23164: Dec 25th 2016 at 9:54:19 PM

Let's not pin the stupidities of Broly's backstory on Toriyama, that was all Toei.

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#23165: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:09:03 PM

What gets me about Broly's bubble isn't how silly it is that Broly could do this. It's what it would mean to the rest of the canon if the movies were considered part of the series.

That Broly as a baby with a battle power of 10,000 can protect himself and his father long enough to reach safety means that nobody above that battle power should ever feel personally threatened by the destruction of a planet. And that's actually pretty relevant to this series.

It means that Goku was never in any danger on Namek. If Baby Broly could do it, then Goku with a battle power of 150 million could have probably made it back to earth in five minutes, safe and secure in his energy bubble. Hell, it means that even Krillin could have survived Namek's destruction without the slightest difficulty, because he was 7.5x the battle power Broly had when he did it.

Obviously, this is provably not the case. In fact, Critical Existence Failure of the planet our protagonists are on continues to be a problem all the way through the end of the Buu arc.

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#23166: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:11:47 PM

Though, that's pretty much because a) the villains are hitting the planet with way more energy than is needed to destroy the planet, and b) the heroes for the most part still need to breathe, so even if they survived they'd just end up suffocating to death in the void of space.

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#23167: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:12:17 PM

On Namek, it's the same villain.

And clearly breathing in space wasn't a problem for Broly, so if he could do it, so could any of our protagonists by the time Namek occurs.

None of these excuses justify Broly's survival. There is no argument for Goku potentially being killed on Namek that Broly surviving Planet Vegeta's destruction would not immediately disprove, were it not exclusively film-canon.

edited 25th Dec '16 10:13:43 PM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23168: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:16:21 PM

Different form, though, which makes the comparison different.

And Broly was clearly powering up when he saved Paragus, so his 10,000 battle power would be inaccurate here. If he had actually become a Super Saiyan at this point, he'd be at least 500,000 - close to the form of Freeza that destroyed Vegeta.

The part about space travel being way too easy still stands, though. At the end of the movie he's sent through space from New Vegeta to Earth, while dying, and manages to make it quite easily.

edit: Of course, Namek is in a different location than Vegeta was, so it's also possible that they could just say that Broly was able to last just long enough to get to the next inhabitable planet, but Namek wasn't close enough for anything for Goku to survive.

edited 25th Dec '16 10:17:33 PM by Saiga

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#23169: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:18:31 PM

I mean, there was probably a planet close enough to Planet Vegeta that Broly and Paragus could get to within the duration of use for the energy barrier or something.

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edited 25th Dec '16 10:19:32 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#23170: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:29:05 PM

I liked how seamlessly they tried to fit the movie in the downtime leading up to the Cell Games :-P

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#23171: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:42:04 PM

Well, it still has the problem the original did - Goku and Gohan aren't in Super Saiyan.

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#23172: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:43:11 PM

"I like our chats."

Edit:

[up] they dropped out for the wedding, because nobody wants the nice wine glasses crushed during the reception.

edited 25th Dec '16 10:45:07 PM by Enlong

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#23173: Dec 25th 2016 at 11:24:17 PM

[up][up]I can honestly get past that. There's nothing that completely snarls on the timeline at least.

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#23174: Dec 26th 2016 at 3:49:58 AM

It bugs me how quick they can all travel to New Vegeta. The saiyans arriving on earth and the humans traveling to Namek took months but now they can go to New Vegeta while waiting for the Cell Games with no time pressure whatsoever?

edited 26th Dec '16 3:50:06 AM by Druplesnubb

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#23175: Dec 26th 2016 at 3:58:59 AM

These new ships got that good speed...don't worry about it.

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