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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#22877: Dec 22nd 2016 at 3:43:18 PM

[up] ...huh. I've been rewatching Dragon Ball for the past few months and I could've sworn that they called Puar a girl. Then again, I'm watching the English dub...

[down] Eh, then maybe I'm just misremembering something.

edited 22nd Dec '16 3:57:18 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#22878: Dec 22nd 2016 at 3:55:35 PM

Puar's gender is never mentioned in zee dub...

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Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#22879: Dec 22nd 2016 at 4:10:51 PM

Yeah, in the english dub Puar is sometimes refereed to as a girl, but Puar is a he.

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#22880: Dec 22nd 2016 at 5:53:51 PM

At some point I want DB Cember to get meta and have them rate their favorite DBZ Abridged episodes. But they probably shouldn't do that next year.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#22882: Dec 22nd 2016 at 6:01:23 PM

Really shows how far they've come huh?

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#22883: Dec 22nd 2016 at 6:06:22 PM

Pretty sure Puar predates the 22nd Budokai. And he flies.

Puar's a shapeshifting cat thing. That doesn't really count as introducing bukujutsu. Nobody saw Puar and went, "Wow, Puar is a master of a secret martial arts technique that could teach our protagonists to fly!" They saw Puar and went, "Weird levitating cat thing that shapeshifts. Neat."

This is even true of the characters. Bukujutsu was formally introduced to the franchise when Tien and Chiaotzu showed up at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai and not one person went, "Oh, that's the flight technique we are all completely familiar with because our friend Puar can do it."

We don't even know if Puar knows bukujutsu. He might just be able to fly because he's a shapeshifting cat thing.

edited 22nd Dec '16 6:07:51 PM by TobiasDrake

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#22884: Dec 22nd 2016 at 6:23:44 PM

He can fly because he's a cat? He must be real Happy about that.

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#22886: Dec 22nd 2016 at 6:32:22 PM

They're also both blue...dear God, does that mean Natsu is Yamcha, but successful at life?

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#22887: Dec 22nd 2016 at 6:37:25 PM

Puar's a shapeshifting cat thing. That doesn't really count as introducing bukujutsu.

You're right. Shapeshifting cats are much more natural flyer than Triclops, Alien Slug Men, and Alien Monkey Men. Basic biology right there there.

We don't even know if Puar knows bukujutsu. He might just be able to fly because he's a shapeshifting cat thing.

By that logic we don't know if Freeza can do it. Or Vegeta. They might be using other alien flying technique. Maybe Freeza can fly coz he's a Freaky Alien Genotype and it's part of his species. After all, bukujutsu is the signature move of the Crane School according to Roshi. Saying all Flying=Bukujutsu is like saying all ki blasts are the Kamehameha since it was the first one name dropped :-P

Heck, by that logic maybe Goku is also using a different technique for flight he learned of Popo or Kami.

edited 22nd Dec '16 6:41:57 PM by Ghilz

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#22888: Dec 22nd 2016 at 7:15:47 PM

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#22889: Dec 22nd 2016 at 10:02:45 PM

You're right. Shapeshifting cats are much more natural flyer than Triclops, Alien Slug Men, and Alien Monkey Men. Basic biology right there there.

Bukujutsu was introduced alongside the Triclops and before the Alien Slug Man. And yes, it is not out of the question for something that is entirely fantastic to have fantastic powers. Had Goku's giant monkey form been capable of flight, nobody would have questioned that either. Hell, even in his base form, had Goku been introduced flying about, he would just be the flying monkey boy.

Tien and Chiaotzu's ability to fly as a martial art was impressive because up until that point, no martial art granted the power of flight. Giran flew because he had wings, Puar flew because he's a flying cat thing, Goku even flew one time by spinning his tail really fast like a helicopter rotor, but those two stepped up and said, "There is a martial art that allows people to fly and we are masters of it."

That was the introduction of bukujutsu. Not Puar.

edited 22nd Dec '16 10:03:06 PM by TobiasDrake

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#22890: Dec 23rd 2016 at 8:42:16 AM

Geets's so damn high on the list.

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#22891: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:22:48 AM

#2 Vegeta, Duh.

edited 23rd Dec '16 10:23:06 AM by Ghilz

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#22892: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:47:52 AM

And then there was one.

I'm interested to hear what they have to say about Frieza, both good and bad...if there is any bad.

I didn't know that it was Vegeta who specifically pushed waiting for the Androids to come. I assumed that was somewhat Goku's idea as well.

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#22893: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:48:52 AM

You didn't know? I watched Z so long ago I forgot.

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#22894: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:52:21 AM

Their analysis of Vegeta was pretty good.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#22895: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:52:45 AM

It might be that I just forgot as well.

I remember him saying he wasn't scared of them, but it's also been a long time since I caught that scene, so him being the one to veto just killing Gero while they could is something that might have slipped my mind.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#22896: Dec 23rd 2016 at 10:57:44 AM

We all knew who this was going to be so why are you all spoilering stuff?

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#22897: Dec 23rd 2016 at 11:01:07 AM

Respect for whoever's not been watching the videos daily.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#22898: Dec 23rd 2016 at 11:01:31 AM

...I don't know.

Anyway, yeah. Didn't remember Vegeta saying I'll fight them when they come cause I ain't a bitch, and y'all better do the same.

I've been blaming the whole group for something that he mostly pushed for it seems (though Goku was probably all for it as well).

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#22899: Dec 23rd 2016 at 11:02:34 AM

[up][up]You all weren't even talking about what they said in the video, just that you liked their analysis. I mean, if you actually thought putting "Duh" was appropriate that tells you how necessary the spoiler actually is.

Though, frankly, using spoiler tags at all for this seemed pointless. It's just their own personal opinions, it's not that serious.

edited 23rd Dec '16 11:04:12 AM by LSBK

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#22900: Dec 23rd 2016 at 11:09:43 AM

[up][up] Yeah, I just checked out the episode; Vegeta rather explicitly threatened to kill anyone who tried to prevent Gero from creating the Androids. Goku both wanted to fight the Androids and was reluctant to kill Gero for something he hasn't technically created yet.


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