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Filby Since: Jan, 2001
#2226: Nov 5th 2012 at 11:54:18 PM

Until I saw the credits, I could have sworn that Chilled was voiced by Doug Walker.

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#2227: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:04:50 AM

Chilled kinda sounded similar to Mickey Mouse as portrayed in South Park.

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#2228: Nov 6th 2012 at 12:06:03 AM

I also loved how the sheer stupidity of the special's concept made Bardock go Super Saiyan.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2229: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:31:27 AM

I'm still trying to figure out the evolution of those kermits into what happened with Baby.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#2230: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:34:57 AM

[up] Dragon Ball Gt isn't canon, so that's not a problem.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2231: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:35:37 AM

Weren't the truffle race mentioned in Z?

Edit: And if it's not canon, then that just makes it even more confusing!

edited 6th Nov '12 7:36:21 AM by GethKnight

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#2232: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:40:08 AM

I'd always thought it was Tuffle, like a play on the word "tough", which they weren't. Maybe it is, or maybe it's both.

Their extinction and all that were canon to Z. I don't think we saw what they looked like, though.

edited 6th Nov '12 7:40:41 AM by wanderlustwarrior

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#2233: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:41:17 AM

[up][up] The Tuffles were mentioned in filler in Z. And it wouldn't be more confusing because GT and Baby never happened because they weren't canon. The Episode of Bardock probably isn't canon either to be honest.

It wouldn't be confusing how the Tuffles could turn into Baby because the Tuffles and Baby never actually existed.

edited 6th Nov '12 7:41:40 AM by unnoun

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2234: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:50:06 AM

No, I mean those things are supposed to be the ancestors of the Sayjins. How the fuck does that even happen?!

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#2235: Nov 6th 2012 at 7:59:03 AM

The solution is pretty easy to figure out. It's made up by Dream!Goku.

hassanico Since: Dec, 1969
#2236: Nov 6th 2012 at 8:21:55 AM

[up][up]I think it was mentioned there was some divergent evolution or something? Or wait, didn't the Sayans invade this planet and claim it as their own?

And I think the Tuffles were mentioned in that one newish Z era movie with the ghosts of past villains and resentment and what not.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2237: Nov 6th 2012 at 8:25:04 AM

I honestly don't know anymore.

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#2238: Nov 6th 2012 at 8:49:10 AM

I think Bardock can sum it up.

"OF ALL THE STUPID! ASININE! SHARKJUMPING BULLSHIT!"

You are not alone.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2239: Nov 6th 2012 at 8:53:11 AM

Ah, that's the whole line. I thought it was just angrish for the second half.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#2240: Nov 6th 2012 at 9:20:01 AM

One plothole for the Abridged-verse version of Episode of Bardock is that Dream!Gohan's complaints include that Bardock shouldn't have lost his ability to see the future when he went back in time. And that's about the point when Gohan's subconscious realizes that everything about Episode Of Bardock is a dream.

...How did he know that Bardock could see the future? How did he know anything about Bardock? Bardock kinda died when Goku was a baby, so it's doubtful that he or Gohan or Goten or anyone else knows much of anything about him. Vegeta probably knows the name, because Bardock was a pretty cool guy that didn't afraid of anything, but the see into the future thing was probably something prince Vegeta didn't know anything about.

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#2242: Nov 6th 2012 at 9:30:04 AM

The other movie could've also been a dream.

[up]Dammit, that was funny.

edited 6th Nov '12 9:30:19 AM by wanderlustwarrior

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#2243: Nov 6th 2012 at 9:36:43 AM

[up] But Frieza references it a few times. It seems like Bardock Father Of Goku happened, in the abridged-verse at least, even if not in the actual Dragon Ball Z. But I have no idea how Gohan would know about those events, and would be able to recognize the inconsistencies enough to realize he was dreaming.

Gohan is obviously supposed to be an Audience Surrogate, and use his smarts to recognize that none of that could possibly be true because it makes no sense. But it also doesn't make sense for him to know about the things it contradicts, when he wasn't born at the time, and the people that were alive at the time either weren't there, died, or had massive head trauma reducing their mental abilities and giving them amnesia.

edited 6th Nov '12 9:37:31 AM by unnoun

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2244: Nov 6th 2012 at 9:41:17 AM

If my questions can be overlooked, then so can yours.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#2245: Nov 6th 2012 at 9:46:46 AM

[up] The explanation for the purple people becoming the Saiyans is that in the original Episode Of Bardock, the purple people were called "Plants", and didn't become the Saiyans. It isn't even really clear that they became the Tuffles either. They only exist at all in Episode Of Bardock, which isn't canon, didn't happen, and none of the events or features of which exist in canon!Dragon Ball Z.

In Abrdiged-verse Episode of Bardock, it's all a dream. The problem is that the dream ended because nothing made sense and the logical mind of the dreamer caused him to wake himself up. But he was only able to know it was a dream because he had knowledge he couldn't have possibly had.

edited 6th Nov '12 9:49:14 AM by unnoun

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2246: Nov 6th 2012 at 9:49:37 AM

Ah. So, the answer for both our questions is that it's all for a joke?

edited 6th Nov '12 9:49:48 AM by GethKnight

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#2247: Nov 6th 2012 at 10:16:59 AM

Clearly Frieza's Death Ball also sent Fasha/Celipa/Selipa back in time... somehow.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#2248: Nov 6th 2012 at 10:21:17 AM

[up] But she and the rest of the members of Bardock's team were dead on a completely different planet after Dodoria killed them. In both Bardock Father Of Goku and the Episode Od Bardock, and the abridged versions of both.

...Also, what would that have to do with anything at all?

edited 6th Nov '12 10:21:43 AM by unnoun

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#2249: Nov 6th 2012 at 10:33:23 AM

Hey, that same Death Ball was established to have weird properties.

It has to do with both the lack of (dream) logic and the concept of where the Saiyans came from.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2250: Nov 6th 2012 at 10:42:51 AM

Maybe having given psychic powers gives you one extra life upon death? tongue

Also, maybe dream Gohan knows about psychic powers because Goku told him Bardock's story before telling Episode of Bardock in the same dream? tongue

edited 6th Nov '12 10:44:41 AM by SpookyMask


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