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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#22001: Dec 9th 2016 at 9:43:27 AM

Oh I know that.

But Raditz would kill him, and even if he was gonna wreck shit, I still think King Piccolo would dislike that someone came to destroy the world he was destroying.

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#22002: Dec 9th 2016 at 9:56:02 AM

King Piccolo wasn't there to just destroy he wanted to rule, with an iron fist though, his motivation was later a counterpart to Kami who did rule but completely and utterly hands off till Goku got involved.

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#22003: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:31:24 AM

Villain #16 is hilarious.

and a much better example of "angry meathead Saiyan" than Broly.

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#22004: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:31:36 AM

After seeing today's entry, I think that almost firmly closes the lid on Raditz making the list unless they give a lot of credit to Raditz's "impact."

Which to be fair is considerable, but not because of Raditz himself.

edited 9th Dec '16 11:33:37 AM by IceAnt573

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#22005: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:36:05 AM

[up]Considering they ranked Raditz arriving as the 2nd most memorable moment of Dragonball, right behind Goku being Super Saiyan, I still think he's making the list.

edited 9th Dec '16 11:36:22 AM by Ghilz

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#22006: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:36:58 AM

I think it'd be fair if Raditz was still on there. Nappa, in the end, is only there to be Vegeta's minion. Raditz, however... big effect on the series. Ringing in the Z era alone should be enough to give him a spot.

I mean, we just had a Saiyan who only made the list because of concept and fandom reaction. It wouldn't be remiss to have another one.

Nappa's presence at this point is bad news for most of the lesser DB Villains, though. Tao Pai Pai is the only non-big bad who still feels like he has a chance.

edited 9th Dec '16 11:40:13 AM by Gilphon

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#22007: Dec 9th 2016 at 5:47:42 PM

[up] I'd say it's more likely that most of the remaining Dragon Ball Era Villains minus Tao Pai Pai and King Piccolo will be grouped together in their respective ranks. the Pilaf gang, The Red Ribbon Army, Piccolo's minions.

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#22008: Dec 9th 2016 at 6:42:52 PM

Even as groups I don't like their prospects much. Freeza's minions beat all of them in a lot of ways. Pilaf has 'the first villain in the series' going for him, and Piccolo's have 'caused the first major character death', but that's it. Maybe the Crane school as a group could make it in. One feels like they ended up mattering enough in the long term to deserve a spot.

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#22009: Dec 9th 2016 at 6:53:15 PM

If we want to nitpick, the Pterodactyl was the first villain of the series. Pilaf and crew were just the final villains of the first arc.

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#22010: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:25:29 PM

Seeing their rationale for Nappa makes me wish I could see live fandom reactions from back in the day.

"I don't get who Toriyama thinks he's playing - they'll just be coming back once this arc is over. I mean, it's not like Piccolo's going to die."

-one heartbreaking sacrifice later-

"OH SHIT!"

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#22011: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:28:33 PM

Wait, their rationale for Nappa being on the list is that he killed Piccolo, rendering the Dragon Balls inert? WELL THAN, I EXPECT TO SEE DEMON KING PICCOLO, CONSIDERING HE DID THE EXACT SAME THING BUT BETTER AND EARLIER!

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#22012: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:32:21 PM

Well, as a capstone for his brutal slaughter of the protagonists, yes, that was their reasoning.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#22013: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:55:32 PM

Better = Killing the Dragon

Not killing the link to the Dragon

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#22014: Dec 9th 2016 at 11:56:32 PM

Speaking of which, how did Kami bring Shenron back to life?

And where does Shenron live, anyway?

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#22015: Dec 10th 2016 at 12:08:20 AM

He brought him back to life by having Popo super glue his statue back together.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#22016: Dec 10th 2016 at 12:12:25 AM

Oh right, that was a holdover...the Dragon statue.

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#22017: Dec 10th 2016 at 12:43:54 AM

And remember that King Piccolo killed the Dragon before we even knew that there was a link to the Dragon, and he did it before we even knew Shenron was an actual creature that could die, in any sense of the word.

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#22018: Dec 10th 2016 at 6:50:00 AM

Yeah, as far as we knew at the time, Shenron was some eternal god creature. Him being slaughtered so easily must have been one hell of a shock.

Basically: Nappa killed someone who we knew it was super bad news to kill, and DK Piccolo killed someone we didn't know it was possible to kill.

edited 10th Dec '16 6:51:23 AM by Enlong

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#22019: Dec 10th 2016 at 7:04:23 AM

I still remember reading to that point in the manga and just sitting there, in shock, at what just happened. I still consider it the most shocking and emotionally impactful moment in the series.

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#22020: Dec 10th 2016 at 10:18:15 AM

I mean, he was called the ETERNAL dragon. You'd think he'd be able to live through someone's bad breath.

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#22021: Dec 10th 2016 at 10:21:09 AM

Yeah that was just some stupid shit the english version made up, his name translates to "god dragon" or "spirit dragon". And as we know in DBZ gods can be killed.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#22022: Dec 10th 2016 at 10:22:54 AM

Why are you all talking as if they're definitely not going to put Demon King Piccolo on the list?

Pushover, you're being oddly defensive over something that hasn't even been implied yet.

edited 10th Dec '16 10:24:07 AM by LSBK

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#22023: Dec 10th 2016 at 10:24:01 AM

[up][up]Not back then we didn't.

edited 10th Dec '16 10:24:16 AM by Moth13

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#22024: Dec 10th 2016 at 10:27:54 AM

[up][up] it's not a day that ends with "Y" if PMC isn't defensive about something.

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#22025: Dec 10th 2016 at 10:31:28 AM

"We" didn't matter then we didn't get it till after several gods got killed. In Japan its standard operating procedure for gods to be killable, that's what Shinto was built on and as was Chinese lore that Dragon Ball was built on.


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