Maybe Vegeta would be able to calm the hell down if the Saiyans had any valued cultural accomplishments besides wailing the fuck out of everything. If bards were accorded the same respect as warriors, say, because they were the only pre-Dragonball path to immortality, then he might not feel so bad if he were an excellent but sub-Goku fighter and an inventive poet with a great voice. Or a strategist on par with the famous Saiyan generals Nanaba and Persim. A king shouldn't have to be STRONGEST THERE IS just to do his fucking job, which is leading the numbnuts brigade, not being a part of it.
A True Lady's Quest - A Jojo is You!"So, Namekian, what do you think of my third form?" "I think Ridley Scott's gonna sue somebody."
edited 18th Sep '12 10:13:37 AM by VeniVidiPony
BUY A CAR FROM ME!I just realized that we're totally going to get the Saiyan Handbook used against the Saiyans themselves at the end of the Cell Saga.
- Someone: "No way! You spat #18 out! How are you even more powerful than before?"
- Cell: "It looks like you've got some reading to do."
Or, even better, Cell himself is confused by it and someone tosses him the handbook.
I'm absolutely sure that Super Saiyan 3 was only added become some executive somewhere said "we need more Goku. We need another Super Saiyan form! Think of the toy-line! What do you mean you wanted the plot to be about Gohan, screw you and put more Goku in!"
Rinse and repeat for Super Saiyan 4, of course (minus the recipient of that being Toriyama), but at least that was tied to the plot it was in.
Because when you think about it, Super Saiyan 3 adds near to nothing to the plot, comes out of nowhere, isn't really accounted for fully, is the only Super Saiyan form that isn't actually tied to character development in some way, and honestly only seems to exist for the sake of a cool powerup sequence and subsequent cookie cutter fight.
It's just there. The fact that it gave them another Saiyan form to makes toys out of is certainly only coincidental.
edited 10th Oct '12 1:31:40 PM by KnownUnknown
Something just occurred to me. Gohan has pretty serious issues in the abridged universe. Nappa is alive, on Earth, and a major in child psychology. Who wants to bet that at some point Gohan will get therapy sessions with Nappa?
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |Edit the back of Nappa's head into the foreground in a scene with Gohan sitting down in a chair and looking at the camera while talking.
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.I figure if it happens it would be at the end of the Cell Saga, maybe just a quick thing the way that Nappa has had his little moments at the end of the first 2 seasons. And that might explain Gohan growing up to be relatively well adjusted, if he does in this universe.
| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |It took rewatching the start of episode 18 to notice: if Vegeta did wish to be immortal, wouldn't he never earn a zenkai again?
Perhaps the criteria for Zenkai wouldn't recognize immortality, at least in the way Vegeta wanted it, and thus he could simply let himself get severely fucked up, heal due to immortality, and then get the Zenkai boost. Rinse and Repeat for infinite power.
That, or immortality means he'd have infinite time to train, and thus could ideally beat anyone given enough time, since he can't die.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!Except he isn't really any stronger. He'd just have to wear them down.
So if they were greedy, they could've kept the Namekian dragon from speaking... whatever the hell Stark they're speaking.

I'll bet that whoever wrote the anime filler had the exact same pun idea.
What sucks even worse for Vegeta is that even after going Majin, it turns out that Goku had another plateau of power he didn't even show him.
Not being a Saiyan in DBZ sucks, but it might suck even worse to be a Saiyan, but not be Goku.
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