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#21876: Dec 6th 2016 at 11:36:51 AM

[up][up] It's like they were playing chicken with Super Saiyan and Vegeta lost, so Goku and Trunks were like, "Sweet, game's up, it's ass-stomping time."

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21877: Dec 6th 2016 at 11:42:59 AM

I feel like the thing with Cooler is. Like, Frieza has all natural talent and never trained, Cooler puts effort in. His fifth form he unlocked. Like, it's not clear when he unlocked it, or how long after Frieza's death the movie is supposed to be. Like, he might not have actually gotten that transformation until after Frieza died. I feel like a dynamic that makes sense is that Frieza is stronger naturally, with Cooler's training giving him a minimal edge at his full power.

I think I've suggested the same thing myself. Coola is stronger than Frieza was before he finally died due to the extra training he did to achieve his fifth form (which isn't so crazy now that Frieza has his golden form)

It's his version of 100% power, but he's still weaker. Goku was surprised that someone was stronger then Frieza, but once he finally went Super Saiyan, he still punked him (and going by the anime version of the Goku vs Frieza fight as opposed to the manga, he beat Coola easier then he beat Frieza as well).

As for why he's never mentioned: well, why would he be mentioned. If we even take the fact that he doesn't bother speaking politely into account, it's very possible that he's the Black Sheep of the clan (hence why Frieza is running things).

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#21878: Dec 6th 2016 at 11:50:48 AM

[up][up]Mm. But my main point is that the movies tend to inadvertently buff their regular state will equally inadvertently nerfing Super Saiyan.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21879: Dec 6th 2016 at 11:53:21 AM

Double post.

This also includes the one for today.

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#21880: Dec 6th 2016 at 12:07:31 PM

Ah, the fruit salad. Good times.

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#21881: Dec 6th 2016 at 12:13:19 PM

I mean, Cooler was weaker than Frieza; Frieza never trained a day in his life and his max power was 120 million. Cooler on the other hand did train, and he's still weaker than Frieza up until he uses his Fourth Transformation; that's the only thing that makes Cooler stronger than Frieza, as without that Frieza's still stronger than him. Which in itself doesn't really have much impact due to the fact that the only way this movie can fit in the timeline is if it takes place during the three years of training prior to the Androids showing up; not only would Goku have naturally have gotten stronger than he was on Namek at that point, he'd also have gotten stronger due to both the training he did on Yardrat and the zenkai he would have gotten once he fully recovered.

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#21882: Dec 6th 2016 at 12:14:37 PM

[up][up]If you put durian in fruit salad you are beyond help.

edited 6th Dec '16 12:14:52 PM by Anomalocaris20

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21883: Dec 6th 2016 at 12:15:53 PM

Cooler does admit that without his Fifth Form he's weaker than Frieza, but that's it. He's definitely supposed to be stronger than him after he transforms otherwise what's the point?

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21884: Dec 6th 2016 at 12:17:07 PM

He might not have had that fifth form when Frieza died.

He could have still been training while on his way to Earth.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#21885: Dec 6th 2016 at 12:40:05 PM

It's like they were playing chicken with Super Saiyan and Vegeta lost, so Goku and Trunks were like, "Sweet, game's up, it's ass-stomping time."

I really want them to make this joke.

Unfortunately the opportunity's passed but the idea of "first person to go Super Saiyan loses" is hysterical.

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#21886: Dec 6th 2016 at 1:21:46 PM

[up]I kinda think Vegeta going Super first was to show how insecure he is.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21887: Dec 6th 2016 at 1:34:28 PM

Also, pretty sure Cooler talks about his transformation like it's something he obtained while Frieza was alive so sayinghe didn't get it until that relatively brief window between Goku defeating Frieza and Cooler going to Earth doesn't really work.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21888: Dec 6th 2016 at 1:41:22 PM

I mean, Cooler training his entire life might get him slightly stronger than his younger brother, but still weaker than all of the failed science projects of an old man in a cave with a box of scraps.

Frieza training for the very first time for four months makes him about as strong as half a Beerus.

There's still a noticeable gap in potential there.

And, like, of course Cooler had time to train, Frieza was a little busy what with actually running the damned empire. Cooler has a ship and three guys.

And maybe Cooler's fifth form still wasn't as strong as it was on Earth when he first got it.

edited 6th Dec '16 1:50:39 PM by unnoun

Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#21889: Dec 6th 2016 at 1:51:28 PM

on the number 19 pick

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as in the luckiest, since he got to die last (in the manga at least. Anime frieza seemed to have a bottomless amounts of goons)

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#21890: Dec 6th 2016 at 2:02:30 PM

I like the joke that Freeza thinks he trained for months, but actually spent way longer than that, in some sort of time-dialafed space. And he doesn't realize it because he doesn't have a good sense of time.

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#21891: Dec 6th 2016 at 2:04:46 PM

Number 19

Another collaborative effort. I dunno, I thought Zarbon was pretty cool. Pretty obvious they didn't include the Ginyu Force in there, though, so they'll show up higher on the list for sure.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21892: Dec 6th 2016 at 3:14:49 PM

Cooler does admit that without his Fifth Form he's weaker than Frieza, but that's it. He's definitely supposed to be stronger than him after he transforms otherwise what's the point?

When did he say that? I've own the fifth movie, and I don't recall him ever saying that.

Of course, I don't watch that one anywhere near as much as I do the sixth movie, so it might be that.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21893: Dec 6th 2016 at 3:24:52 PM

He says that Frieza was always trying to outdo him and definitely had the edge, that is until Cooler "discovered" his fifth form.

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#21894: Dec 6th 2016 at 4:25:54 PM

So from what I understand from DBCember. Wen Broli is happening.

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#21895: Dec 6th 2016 at 4:36:28 PM

Yeah, they're uploading it on Christmas Day, I think.

Unfortunately I won't be able to see it until a week later, because I'll be out of the country visiting family. Here's hoping it doesn't suck. My expectations are high.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21896: Dec 6th 2016 at 4:43:16 PM

Come to think of it, I won't be able to watch it at release either since I'll also be out of town, though not out of the country. Still a lengthy plane flight away though.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#21897: Dec 6th 2016 at 4:49:44 PM

I am really curious about what they're going to do considering how empty and boring the actual movie is.

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#21898: Dec 6th 2016 at 4:51:48 PM

So dialogue heavy...

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#21899: Dec 6th 2016 at 4:55:53 PM

Depending on your sense of humor, you can make a Broly Abridged film funny.

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#21900: Dec 6th 2016 at 5:00:52 PM

I mean, SSJ 9 K did a funny abridged version of the first Broly.

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