Well since it came from Gohan, it probably wasn't sexist. He, unlike every other guy in the series, has read books. He probably knows males generally have greater muscle mass and denser bones than females, so males are more durable by default.
Then again, Gohan never was that blunt and would be well-versed enough in social etiquette to not add that "you're a girl" part.
Hmm.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."As for why no one stepped in, I believe Gohan was going to until Goku stopped him. Goku is a stickler for the Budoukai rules (see his fight with Piccolo at the 23rd Budoukai) and everyone listens to Goku no matter what (see his fight with Piccolo at the 23rd Budoukai).
I wonder if the announcer has the power to stop fights. Surely he'd be able to. Especially when the Budoukai became more of a spectacle.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!I would have to guess the plan became the moment she surrendered someone steps in if her opponent decided to ignore her surrender. The officials probably can't do anything since this was a guy that snapped his neck back Into place.
The reason gohan didn't get a shot at him was because the Kai and their lack of sense seemed to help their enemy get what they wanted.
"Shall I use you, or make you mine... I'm not so sure what I'll do." - DorthyGiven how many people complain over Vegeta's rage boost when Beerus slaps Bulma, I can't, and don't want to, imagine the rage people would have if that happened.
Personally, I'm fine with him being popped by Babidi.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!I'm... pretty sure the tournament committee allowed a grown man to beat the tar out of a boy no older than 11, and electrocute him in front of an audience. They let bubble gum-breathing pterodactyls and even a creature sharing Piccolo's name enter, and, IIRC, Tien and Tao didn't have any compunctions about killing their opponent.
The tournament committee gives zero f'cks. They're contractually obligated to give zero f'cks unless tournament property/assets are in some way damaged, or if the audience is somehow threatened.
edited 29th Nov '16 1:06:28 PM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!To be fair, even if she did die, they could just revive her with the Dragon Balls. It's not like death has any real consequence in Dragon Ball so long as they're around.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!If you're cynical, you can look at it in such a negative light. Or you can be positive about it, so really it depends on where you stand on the whole "sexism" issue.
Truthfully, I just wanted a bully to get what was coming to him, but then I was a dumb 8 year old.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.I'm actually not too keen on the "retribution for a lover" thing in general. It usually applies to female characters, but I find it pretty distasteful against males too.
Given the situation there's some leeway, but I just can't really go for the "you hurt my loved one while they were willingly participating in battle and were just better than them". It just feels hollow and Protagonist-Centered Morality laced.
I'm going to give Videl at least a bit of a pass on not surrendering.
Yes, the moment he reset his broken neck, she should have probably gone nope! down with this shit! and gotten the fuck out of her, but you have to remember who she is.
The Daughter of Mr. Satan. The Hero who defeated Cell, and a local hero in her own right. She likely felt obligated to win to hold up the family legacy. So not surrendering even when it must have become very, very clear she could not win was never an option for her, because if her dad could beat Cell, then she must be able to beat this dude who her dad stomped three years earlier.
As for Gohan avenging her, I kinda agree that it wouldn't have been good. Spopovitch got what was coming to him, but it feels wrong that she doesn't even get the chance to get him back. In the end, it's just.....he's not even important, so it feels like the whole thing was just to make sure she went back to the kitchen where she belonged.
And since both Toei and Toyatarou are going off the notes that Toriyama gave them for Super, I guess that was always what he intended for her, or it's what he decided he wanted her to do, which is in contrast to how he portrayed her before.
Right. Long story short, I just think it would be nice if DBZ had more female fighters, but that's unlikely, due to both the power creep and Toriyama being a bit too old school in his thinking when it comes to his female characters (writing them as jokes, or turning them into housewives).
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That's a good point, but Videl vs. Spopovich wasn't a fight; he could have ended the match early if he wanted, but just kept torturing Videl. It's as much his fault as it is Videl's for refusing to quit against an opponent she couldn't win against.
That's why I don't see it as negative as people as most would, because even if Videl wasn't Gohan's girlfriend, I think it's a reasonable response to want to pay back somebody who tortured someone you cared about.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Yea, only if you're extremely cynical (and to be fair, Arha is :V) can you really call that sexist, since it's probably a realistic response anyone would have. It'd only really be sexist if they focused on her being a girl, rather than ya know...the fact she's getting the shit kicked out of her.
edited 29th Nov '16 9:06:00 AM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Well, I'd expect that if it had been a male character who was tortured like that, (like if it had been Krillin) a desire to avenge him would be ok. The potential Double Standard of Spopovitch beating up a guy might get in the way though.
Hard to put that one into words. I just get the feeling a big part of why what Spopovitch did was bad was less because he was beating someone half to death (which is still a big thing) and more because he was doing it to a girl. It shouldn't be, but it is.
I'm more then willing to be proved wrong and yelled at for this if anyone disagrees though.
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Yesh, she should've given up after the big bald bad guy recovered from a broken neck. At some point it just became dumb stubbornness.
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